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Converting to Dropbar

Old 05-28-15, 07:23 AM
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Converting to Dropbar

I am seriously thinking of converting my Giant Rapid 2 to a drop bar, much like the Defy 2, using a new 10-speed Tiagra groupset. Right now the bike is just sitting and collecting dust. Either convert it or sell it, I suppose.

The frame geometry is similar to the Defy. The top tube and wheelbase is longer by 2cm on the Rapid. Is there any consideration for this difference that I should note?

The plan is to go with a 52/39 chainset, and 11-25 cassette. I have compacts on two of my bikes and am not crazy on the big 50-34 jump.

Anyone done a similar conversion? Opinions?

Oh yeah, the cost of the conversion is going to be about $400CAD. Worth it?

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I think this covers it.

Paying almost half the cost of the bike to convert to drop bars so it's similar to your Defy. Why not just ride your Defy and save this for trolling the neighborhood?
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Seems like you could sell your bike and use the money you were thinking of using to upgrade to buy a Defy.
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Sorry, I didn't make that clear. I DON'T HAVE a DEFY 2. Once converted it would be LIKE a DEFY 2.

I'm not converting it to sell it; I would ride it. Currently as a flat bar bike I have no interest in riding it.
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sell it and buy a Defy
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The frame will be too big for you with drop bars. You can accomodate with a short stem, but the handling may get messy.

If you had the parts sitting around and could do the conversion for cheap, then sure give it a try. But for what you are saying it would cost it doesn't make sense. Sell it, add the $400 to what you get for it and buy a Defy.
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So the consensus seems to be not to do the upgrade, at least at the current cost.

I don't want to buy a Defy, BTW. I'm sure it's a fine bike, and I've seen a few at my LBS with Tiargra groupset selling for $1300+. That's more than what I paid for my Roubaix and Rapid, combined. Not worth it for me.

I'm going to go another direction: I just found a set of 3x9 Tiagra shifters with dropbars for pretty cheap. Some bar tape and cables, and that's it. I'm not crazy about keeping the 3x9, but for less than $150, I'm willing to experiment.

Thanks for your replies.
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Originally Posted by mcours2006
So the consensus seems to be not to do the upgrade, at least at the current cost.

I don't want to buy a Defy, BTW. I'm sure it's a fine bike, and I've seen a few at my LBS with Tiargra groupset selling for $1300+. That's more than what I paid for my Roubaix and Rapid, combined. Not worth it for me.

I'm going to go another direction: I just found a set of 3x9 Tiagra shifters with dropbars for pretty cheap. Some bar tape and cables, and that's it. I'm not crazy about keeping the 3x9, but for less than $150, I'm willing to experiment.

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For $150, I'd screw around with it as well. That makes more sense.
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OP, I hope that price includes derailleurs as well, unless you already have a road drive train. Most hybrids have MTB FD and RD. Road and MTB FD cable pulls are different, and RD may or may not line up depending on models and generations.
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I did a 26" to 700c conversion on my Litespeed (bare frame), and absolutely love it. One issue that I did run into with the Litespeed was that the chain stay clearance was tight for my cranks and a 54T chainring.

Your Giant looks like a nice enough base that it might be worth it. However, I'd try to keep the costs down to a reasonable amount.

Or, sell the Giant and buy a similar used cyclocross bike that you really want.

There is a whole chain on MTB drop bar conversions.

Personally I'm happy with a little longer frame/stem.
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OP, I hope that price includes derailleurs as well, unless you already have a road drive train. Most hybrids have MTB FD and RD. Road and MTB FD cable pulls are different, and RD may or may not line up depending on models and generations.
No need for different derailleurs. The Rapid is basically a road bike with road bike parts and flat bars. It has Tiagra RD and a triple upfront, 130mm dropout, 700cx25 tires, dual pivot calipers. I might need to replace the stem to a shorter one, but I'll do the convert first and see.

I did pick up the bar and shifters. Some scuffs on it, but it seems to be in good working condition. As soon as I get some cables and tape I will get to it.

I expect it to be a pretty straight forward conversion. I'll let you know how it goes.
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Originally Posted by CliffordK
Your Giant looks like a nice enough base that it might be worth it. However, I'd try to keep the costs down to a reasonable amount.

Or, sell the Giant and buy a similar used cyclocross bike that you really want.
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Nah, I don't really want to sell it. I don't have an aluminum road bike with drop bars, but I want one. This one would fill that gap nicely.
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have done it multiple times. Only time its worth it is if you really like the frame for some reason, or if you have half of the parts for the conversion laying around.
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Originally Posted by mcours2006
No need for different derailleurs. The Rapid is basically a road bike with road bike parts and flat bars. It has Tiagra RD and a triple upfront, 130mm dropout, 700cx25 tires, dual pivot calipers. I might need to replace the stem to a shorter one, but I'll do the convert first and see.

I did pick up the bar and shifters. Some scuffs on it, but it seems to be in good working condition. As soon as I get some cables and tape I will get to it.

I expect it to be a pretty straight forward conversion. I'll let you know how it goes.
Nice. In my hybrid days, the front derailleur mismatch was always a barrier. You should have no issue with that.
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DON'T DO IT! I converted a Giant Rapid 3 a couple years ago, then just ended up selling it and the original components and buying a real road bike. I wanted a project and didn't want to shell out for a entire new bike (since, like you say, a Rapid is basically 8/10ths road bike). But it's more money in the long run, and you're better off selling the Rapid and using the conversion money for a road bike.

I actually sold the Giant for a really good price, almost as much as it was new, but all the money on the new components was lost. I waited for end of year bike sales and got a highly discounted Trek (like 25% off or something).
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DON'T DO IT! I converted a Giant Rapid 3 a couple years ago, then just ended up selling it and the original components and buying a real road bike. I wanted a project and didn't want to shell out for a entire new bike (since, like you say, a Rapid is basically 8/10ths road bike). But it's more money in the long run, and you're better off selling the Rapid and using that and the conversion money for a road bike.

I actually sold the Giant for a really good price, almost as much as it was new, but all the money on the new components was lost. I waited for end of year bike sales and got a highly discounted Trek (like 25% off or something).
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Also, not sure what your bike has on it, but my derailleurs were perfectly compatible with Shimano brifters.
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I roadified a straight bar hybrid but eventually wound up with a legit drop bar road bike. but you know what? that hybrid was so comfortable and so fast. I did it on the cheap, meaning all I changed was the bars (free from an old bike), saddle and tires. if you don't have a girlfriend, wife or kids it sounds like a nice summer project. or ... it might be a good way to get away from them!
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OK, here's the end result. I didn't spend a whole lot of the parts. Paid $120 for the used bar and 9-speed Tiagra shifters. Bought some cables, housing, and bar tape from UK retailer, say $30 worth. So $150 for a bike that I otherwise would not even ride anymore, and a couple hours of work. Time will tell whether or not I enjoy riding it.

I had gotten a great deal initially on the bike, so it's not a huge expenditure.

First one is the before. Second is the after.

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It looks like a very nice conversion.

Have you had it out on the road yet? Trails yet?
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I don't know your riding comfort level, so maybe you set the bars up like that on purpose, but personally, I'd rotate the bars up (bar ends down) more, so the ends point more at your rear hub area, then move the brake levers down to wear the bar starts to bend, which would give you a larger flat space on the side.

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Originally Posted by mcours2006
OK, here's the end result. I didn't spend a whole lot of the parts. Paid $120 for the used bar and 9-speed Tiagra shifters. Bought some cables, housing, and bar tape from UK retailer, say $30 worth. So $150 for a bike that I otherwise would not even ride anymore, and a couple hours of work. Time will tell whether or not I enjoy riding it.

I had gotten a great deal initially on the bike, so it's not a huge expenditure.

First one is the before. Second is the after.

perky shifters, your hands would have to tilt up quite a bit to reach the levers.
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Originally Posted by CliffordK
It looks like a very nice conversion.

Have you had it out on the road yet? Trails yet?
I finished the work last night. Took it out early this morning for a two-hour ride. It felt good. The shifting was better than the trigger shifters on the flatbar. I purposely left it in a more upright position.

Riding conditions were hilly and windy--a tough combo, but the bike performed well.
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