Bike Forums

Bike Forums (https://www.bikeforums.net/forum.php)
-   Road Cycling (https://www.bikeforums.net/road-cycling/)
-   -   How much seat post do I need? (https://www.bikeforums.net/road-cycling/1011186-how-much-seat-post-do-i-need.html)

moppeddler 05-30-15 05:56 PM

How much seat post do I need?
 
I have a Thompson seat post, pretty sure it's Al. There is a line on it that says "Max." I assume that I should not cut above this line? It still seems like a lot of dead weight to me.

simnorm 05-30-15 06:15 PM

Max line should be 100mm from the end. Therefore, cut it so that 100mm is inserted in your frame's seat tube. It has to clear the top tube.

loimpact 05-30-15 06:16 PM

Unless your seat post is cast iron, I wouldn't cut any of it.

Montag311 05-30-15 06:41 PM

Measure from the max line to the end of the seatpost that goes into the frame. You can cut the post to any length as long as you maintain this minimum insertion. For example, if you want to cut two inches off the post, mark a new max line two inches above where the old one was. But I agree with the other poster who said leave it alone. Even three or four inches of an aluminum seatpost doesn't weigh very much. Plus, there is always the possibility that you might cut off so much that you can't raise the saddle later if you want to.

rpenmanparker 05-30-15 06:49 PM

The Max line denotes the least post that should inside the frame. Stupid nomenclature, right? It should be Min written upside down. Go figure. Unless you have a crazy long MTB post(400 mm) on a road bike, leave it alone.

Dave Cutter 05-30-15 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by moppeddler (Post 17851600)
I have a Thompson seat post......... It still seems like a lot of dead weight to me.

Instead of cutting pieces off... or drilling holes to save a few grams of weight... maybe you could look at Carbon Fiber replacement parts.

IcySmooth52 05-31-15 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by Dave Cutter (Post 17851729)
Instead of cutting pieces off... or drilling holes to save a few grams of weight... maybe you could look at Carbon Fiber replacement parts.

+1

Or ride the bike more!

3alarmer 05-31-15 09:38 AM

.
...Max called and he wants his post back. He says please don't cut it.

cale 05-31-15 09:53 AM

You can cut it but probably shouldn't pass the post on in the future. Whatever the distance from end to the "Max" line offers a conservative guide for the minimum insertion depth. But the principle of the max line is based on a very rough calculation of possible rider weight, saddle position, terrain, and other considerations. It is very conservative.

I'm all for making parts your own and personally would have no issue with cutting the post. A 400mm post can be safely shortened to 300mm if the minimum insertion depth is followed. The post becomes less likely to bend when shortened so, theoretically, you could even raise it up a bit. Haha

JohnJ80 05-31-15 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by rpenmanparker (Post 17851712)
The Max line denotes the least post that should inside the frame. Stupid nomenclature, right? It should be Min written upside down. Go figure. Unless you have a crazy long MTB post(400 mm) on a road bike, leave it alone.

^this. You just don't want to be on your bike when the seatpost/seat collar fail. That's what happens if you do this wrong.


J.

Jakedatc 05-31-15 12:33 PM

Take a swig of water and you'll save as much weight as cutting a nice Thompson post... not worth the effort and lack of resale value

StanSeven 05-31-15 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by rpenmanparker (Post 17851712)
The Max line denotes the least post that should inside the frame. Stupid nomenclature, right? It should be Min written upside down. Go figure.

Max makes sense to me. That's the maximum amount of sestpost that should show

rpenmanparker 05-31-15 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by StanSeven (Post 17853415)
Max makes sense to me. That's the maximum amount of sestpost that should show

I must spend too much time standing on my head.

a77impala 05-31-15 03:09 PM

I think the stress put on the seat tube by a short post is going to cause the tube to fail , not the seat post. The further the post is inserted the more the stress is distributed.

3alarmer 05-31-15 03:13 PM

http://fcdn.mtbr.com/attachments/ari...301_065037.jpg

...^^^note the minimum insertion markings, clearly visible.

rpenmanparker 05-31-15 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by 3alarmer (Post 17853634)
http://fcdn.mtbr.com/attachments/ari...301_065037.jpg

...^^^note the minimum insertion markings, clearly visible.

Lot's of folks can't follow directions.

eusebio 05-31-15 03:43 PM

I rode a vintage Sakae/Ringyo CT P5E Alloy for five years measured at 180mm long (measurement not from max height line). I bought a 300mm post a couple weeks ago and it takes like 3 DAYS for me to get the seatpost all the way in. Don't cut under 100mm. I'm going to cut my post once I get the tool.

Jakedatc 05-31-15 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by eusebio (Post 17853704)
I rode a vintage Sakae/Ringyo CT P5E Alloy for five years measured at 180mm long (measurement not from max height line). I bought a 300mm post a couple weeks ago and it takes like 3 DAYS for me to get the seatpost all the way in. Don't cut under 100mm. I'm going to cut my post once I get the tool.

in that age of bike i'd be more afraid it was an odd size like 26.8mm that you forced a 27.2 into.

79pmooney 05-31-15 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by Jakedatc (Post 17853827)
in that age of bike i'd be more afraid it was an odd size like 26.8mm that you forced a 27.2 into.

You won't get a 27.2 post into a 26.8 seattube, but spending three days to get it into a 27.0 frame like my Raleigh Carlton sounds very believable.

26.8 an odd size? It's by far the most common for the steel Japanese of the 70s and 80s.

Ben

Jakedatc 05-31-15 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by 79pmooney (Post 17853862)
You won't get a 27.2 post into a 26.8 seattube, but spending three days to get it into a 27.0 frame like my Raleigh Carlton sounds very believable.

26.8 an odd size? It's by far the most common for the steel Japanese of the 70s and 80s.

Ben

well... odd for those of used to modern bikes with either 27.2 or 31.8 ;)

but ya 27.0 sounds more likely

StanSeven 05-31-15 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by 3alarmer (Post 17853634)
http://fcdn.mtbr.com/attachments/ari...301_065037.jpg

...^^^note the minimum insertion markings, clearly visible.

Wouldn't happen with carbon

milkbaby 05-31-15 08:04 PM

I can't believe how many people are saying not to cut the post. As mentioned, just make sure you will have enough left to safely maintain the minimum insertion. There's nothing magical about a seatpost that makes it a bad idea to cut down as long as you do it properly.

Jakedatc 05-31-15 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by milkbaby (Post 17854309)
I can't believe how many people are saying not to cut the post. As mentioned, just make sure you will have enough left to safely maintain the minimum insertion. There's nothing magical about a seatpost that makes it a bad idea to cut down as long as you do it properly.

It is mostly a waste of time and effort. Plus if he ever wants to get rid of it or changes bikes it will be worthless. Thompson is already one of the lightest alloy posts out there so cutting off a few inches isn't going to do a damn thing.

plus his problem seems to be a diameter issue rather than length.

cale 05-31-15 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by Jakedatc (Post 17854404)
It is mostly a waste of time and effort. Plus if he ever wants to get rid of it or changes bikes it will be worthless. Thompson is already one of the lightest alloy posts out there so cutting off a few inches isn't going to do a damn thing.

plus his problem seems to be a diameter issue rather than length.

Time and effort are relative. I can cut through a aluminum seatpost in about 45 seconds with my hand hacksaw. Now my time IS valuable but I still come out ahead by doing the work myself.:lol:

The reason to avoid recommending cutting is, IMHO, an overabundance of caution. You can "save" someone every time you warn them off. It's nice to "save" people.

There's an old saying, "You can never be too rich or too thin." Thin is like light weight. Of course it does take considerable restraint to avoid taking this ridiculous saying seriously.

eusebio 06-01-15 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by Jakedatc (Post 17853827)
in that age of bike i'd be more afraid it was an odd size like 26.8mm that you forced a 27.2 into.

I surfed Sheldon Brown's website for awhile and my Bridgestone 400 has a 27mm diameter seatpost. I was joking about it taking 3 days haha. It takes about 1 minute for me to get the 300mm seatpost all the way down into the downtube. I would have kept using the Sakae/Ringyo CT P5E which I can fit in about 20 seconds but it was all perma-dirty (no signs of rust) from 30 years of use.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:19 PM.


Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.