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eating is overated for something like a hard century

Old 06-22-15, 01:03 PM
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eating is overated for something like a hard century

In my best marathon shape I always felt carb-loading was way overrated. Well trained experienced long distance runners really just need to rest a lot before a long distance race and eat pretty normal. I do not think it is any different for riding a hard 80-100 miles. Seems that if you just eat normally actually overdue it and rest I seem to do better. I find that on my longest and fastest rides I did not eat anything more the days before and that I simply was rested and able to use the training to avoid depleting the body. Seems to body builds up so that for about 4-5 hour rides carb-loading does not help. It does help if you are riding hard for more than 3 hours to take some calories maybe 500 during the event. Wonder if others have this experience. For a novice I can see they might benefit the most.
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Old 06-22-15, 01:10 PM
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I like to eat a normal breakfast before and then something every hour. Clif bars and Hammer gels usually.
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I don't agree. The top marathon runners finish a marathon in around 2:30 or less. A competitive cyclist might do a century in around 4 hours depending on terrain and 5+ hours in the saddle is not uncommon. I don't bring food if I'm only planning to ride a couple hours or less. Personally, more than 3 hours without some calorie input and I definitely start to hit a wall.
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Yeah the eating a big spaghetti dinner the night before is silly but not eating appropriately before or during a century ride is going to affect your performance.
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I'm a long time runner with several fairly quick marathons (sub 3:00) and I've wondered why do many people doing centuries consume do much food. I know I need food before three hours are up in a century and learned to start before then. An energy bar around 40 and 80 miles plus a banana at 60 miles usually dorks well. I supplement that with sports drinks.

However I see people routinely piging out at stops. Between multipe PBJ sandwiches, bananas and oranges, bars, and even pie/ice cream and this occurs 4 or 5 times, it's easy to see why o many cyclists are overweight.
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I'm overweight, and I dont mind stopping at a nice pub for some beer and a burger in the middle of my century. If I'm doing a century for speed it's cycle and stop to buy maybe only a gatorade refill though and eat gels or powerbars.
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Originally Posted by therhodeo View Post
Yeah the eating a big spaghetti dinner the night before is silly but not eating appropriately before or during a century ride is going to affect your performance.

You mean, let me understand this, because maybe it's me, I'm a little effed up maybe, but eating a big spaghetti dinner is silly how, I mean silly like a clown, does a big spaghetti dinner amuse you? Does it make you laugh? What do you mean silly, silly how? How is eating a big spaghetti dinner silly?
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Originally Posted by deacon mark View Post
Seems that if you just eat normally actually overdue it and rest I seem to do better.
I'm at a loss to understand how what I eat or do affects how well you ride.

I also don't understand what basis you have to generalize your personal experience to anyone else.
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Old 06-22-15, 01:58 PM
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However I see people routinely piging out at stops. Between multipe PBJ sandwiches, bananas and oranges, bars, and even pie/ice cream and this occurs 4 or 5 times, it's easy to see why o many cyclists are overweight.
When I pay upwards of $100 entry fee to ride a century, I want value for my money dammit. If that means scarfing 3 ham sandwiches, 6 bananas, 2 litres of electrolyte drink down my throat and stuffing my pockets with clif bars at some middle school playground before going up the 2,000' climb that's the centrepiece of the whole event, and repeating the same 20 miles later, then so be it.
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Originally Posted by Nachoman View Post
You mean, let me understand this, because maybe it's me, I'm a little effed up maybe, but eating a big spaghetti dinner is silly how, I mean silly like a clown, does a big spaghetti dinner amuse you? Does it make you laugh? What do you mean silly, silly how? How is eating a big spaghetti dinner silly?
Silly as in ridiculous. Every big t-shirt ride around here will do some big pasta meal the night before so all the already overweight middle agers can "carb load" after 3 days of not riding to prep for the next day of riding rest stop to rest stop.
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Originally Posted by Leinster View Post
When I pay upwards of $100 entry fee to ride a century, I want value for my money dammit. If that means scarfing 3 ham sandwiches, 6 bananas, 2 litres of electrolyte drink down my throat and stuffing my pockets with clif bars at some middle school playground before going up the 2,000' climb that's the centrepiece of the whole event, and repeating the same 20 miles later, then so be it.
I have 100% left t-shirt rides before with all 3 back pockets loaded with free food from the rest stops. Thats what they get for charging so much for rides on open courses.
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You mean, let me understand this, because maybe it's me, I'm a little effed up maybe, but eating a big spaghetti dinner is silly how, I mean silly like a clown, does a big spaghetti dinner amuse you? Does it make you laugh? What do you mean silly, silly how? How is eating a big spaghetti dinner silly?
I think he meant a big spaghetti dinner the night before won't make a difference on the century performance.

A long time ago the belief that a hard effort a few days before an endurance event would deplete your store of carbos. You could further deplete it by avoiding carbos for a couple days. Then you would super saturate the carbo storage vault by loading the night before with spaghetti diner.

It doesn't really work and there are lots better sources of carbo yo take in
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Originally Posted by therhodeo View Post
Silly as in ridiculous. Every big t-shirt ride around here will do some big pasta meal the night before so all the already overweight middle agers can "carb load" after 3 days of not riding to prep for the next day of riding rest stop to rest stop.
I just want to say, this has to be one of my favorite sentences ever on BF.
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I just want to say, this has to be one of my favorite sentences ever on BF.
I agree. This is a classic. And we were hear to see it live.
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I agree. This is a classic. And we were hear to see it live.
I've got more but only the first one is free.
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I'm very excited to see people care what I push into my feed hole on my century ride...I can't wait for Saturday so I can eat so many fig newtons all those other people throw up in disgust.
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Originally Posted by StanSeven View Post
I'm a long time runner with several fairly quick marathons (sub 3:00) and I've wondered why do many people doing centuries consume do much food. I know I need food before three hours are up in a century and learned to start before then. An energy bar around 40 and 80 miles plus a banana at 60 miles usually dorks well. I supplement that with sports drinks.

However I see people routinely piging out at stops. Between multipe PBJ sandwiches, bananas and oranges, bars, and even pie/ice cream and this occurs 4 or 5 times, it's easy to see why o many cyclists are overweight.
Cyclists aren't overweight because of what they happen to eat at some charity century ride...they are overweight because of everything they eat when not out riding.
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Cyclists aren't overweight because of what they happen to eat at some charity century ride...they are overweight because of everything they eat when not out riding.
Its both. Cyclist think because they ride 5 hours a week that they're 4000 calories in the hole and they can load up on whatever they want. They're not fat because of what they eat at the charity ride. They're fat because of the mindset that leads them to eating so much at the charity ride.
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I think it depends on the level of competition your talking about. For your average Joe that rides a few hundred miles a month I think you are correct.
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For sure, pro level riders are black holes for food. Just look at one of the hundreds of articles on a TdF rider's breakfast. Even the amateur racers I know can really slam down the food because they put in serious miles. I think this thread fits right in there with the guy flipping out about "recovery" drinks.

My problem is too much freaking soda. I grew up with it always in the house since I was a kid, so I'm seriously addicted. I've been able to notch it down occasionally, but if I get busy/stressed at work, I cave. I seem to be able to improve all of my eating habits except for that one.
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Originally Posted by therhodeo View Post
Its both. Cyclist think because they ride 5 hours a week that they're 4000 calories in the hole and they can load up on whatever they want. They're not fat because of what they eat at the charity ride. They're fat because of the mindset that leads them to eating so much at the charity ride.
I guess I never watched what others ate and gave half a ****.
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I guess I never watched what others ate and gave half a ****.
Neat.
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Originally Posted by StanSeven View Post
I'm a long time runner with several fairly quick marathons (sub 3:00) and I've wondered why do many people doing centuries consume do much food. I know I need food before three hours are up in a century and learned to start before then. An energy bar around 40 and 80 miles plus a banana at 60 miles usually dorks well. I supplement that with sports drinks.
Yep, might also grab some nuts and raisins, or sliced oranges if available.

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However I see people routinely piging out at stops. Between multipe PBJ sandwiches, bananas and oranges, bars, and even pie/ice cream and this occurs 4 or 5 times, it's easy to see why o many cyclists are overweight.
Pie and ice cream? I've done plenty of centuries and never seen these at a stop. At the end of the ride maybe, I'd be all over it.
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Originally Posted by asgelle View Post
I'm at a loss to understand how what I eat or do affects how well you ride.

I also don't understand what basis you have to generalize your personal experience to anyone else.
Maybe you took my thread wrong, I am sorry it just a question about carb loading and long rides. YOu are correct it is all personal and really I should watch what I type. I can type must faster than I can think.
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