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Recent craigslist score...Dura Ace??

Old 07-01-15, 02:24 PM
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Recent craigslist score...Dura Ace??

I recently bought a Surly Pacer for $600. My initial plan was to turn in into a single speed since that is typically my preference. I was OK with the price since I was pretty sure it had several parts that I could reuse and there was a bunch of extras thrown in.

So, once I take a closer look, I find that it has a complete Dura Ace group except for the shifters/brake levers which are Ultegra. This came as a surprise since there was no mention of this on the add. Everything is in great shape to boot.

No experience with dura ace here. That said, what market are they aimed at? What kind of rider prefers dura ace? Are they better than ultegra?
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Old 07-01-15, 02:31 PM
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Get the part numbers stamped on the individual components and do a google search. Dura Ace from 1995 is very, very different from 2015 Dura Ace. Googling the part numbers should get you some eBay results to get an idea of value.
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Old 07-01-15, 02:45 PM
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DA is top tier Shimano but as already stated, there is a big difference in value depending on what generation it is. I doubt anybody would sell a bike with nearly complete DA group for $600 unless it was at least 3-4 generations old

Also, the Pacer is not a great candidate for single speed since it had vertical drop outs.and even older DA is going to ride nicely so might as well ride the bike as is
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Old 07-01-15, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by rms13 View Post
DA is top tier Shimano but as already stated, there is a big difference in value depending on what generation it is. I doubt anybody would sell a bike with nearly complete DA group for $600 unless it was at least 3-4 generations old

Also, the Pacer is not a great candidate for single speed since it had vertical drop outs.and even older DA is going to ride nicely so might as well ride the bike as is
I already have a vertical drop-out equiped bike set up as a single speed (long haul trucker). I use a rennen rollenlager and have been pleased with the results. I was going to do the same thing with the pacer.

Interesting about the age thing with dura ace. Is the older stuff built to lesser standards? I will look up the stamped numbers for sure. Is there a reliable data base that tells me age as long as I have the stamped number?
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just post a picture and we'll tell u what you have
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Old 07-01-15, 10:38 PM
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The shifters are the most expensive groupset parts followed by the crank. I'm assuming it didn't come with a DA crank? If so, you're just talking about DA derailleurs and brakes which aren't terribly expensive new. The older 9/10sp DA parts aren't going to be worth a lot today used.
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Originally Posted by bt View Post
just post a picture and we'll tell u what you have
ikr. Instead of playing coy, just post the pics or the model numbers.
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ikr. Instead of playing coy, just post the pics or the model numbers.
+1

The suspense is killing me. My guess is levers, crank, casette and chain are not DA and brakes probably aren't either. The bike was probably built with a hodge podge of mis matched parts that the seller picked up used. Probably has 9 or 10 speed DA derailleurs that original owner paid $50 for
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Originally Posted by rms13 View Post
+1

The suspense is killing me. My guess is levers, crank, casette and chain are not DA and brakes probably aren't either. The bike was probably built with a hodge podge of mis matched parts that the seller picked up used. Probably has 9 or 10 speed DA derailleurs that original owner paid $50 for
Cranks, brakes (front and rear), derailleurs all say dura ace on them. Not sure about cassette. Shifters/brake levers are ultegra. Don't have pic taking capabilities. Has Mavic hubs. Havent had much time to spend on the project yet. I will get part #s soon.
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Originally Posted by mrmb View Post
Cranks, brakes (front and rear), derailleurs all say dura ace on them. Not sure about cassette. Shifters/brake levers are ultegra. Don't have pic taking capabilities. Has Mavic hubs. Havent had much time to spend on the project yet. I will get part #s soon.
..really?
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This does happen once in a while for whatever reason. The seller was perhaps desperate for the cash. Perhaps it was stolen.

I came upon complete DA 7800 groupset, minus the chain and cassette, on CL listed for $350. The post was 12 hrs old and there were already over 250 views. I responded, but knew it was too late.
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Originally Posted by mcours2006 View Post
This does happen once in a while for whatever reason. The seller was perhaps desperate for the cash. Perhaps it was stolen.

I came upon complete DA 7800 groupset, minus the chain and cassette, on CL listed for $350. The post was 12 hrs old and there were already over 250 views. I responded, but knew it was too late.
Stolen? Possibly. But surprising anyone would build up a Surly Pacer with DA
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Old 07-03-15, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by rms13 View Post
Stolen? Possibly. But surprising anyone would build up a Surly Pacer with DA
Why is that surprising? No hard fast rule as to what you can and can't put on the bike. The new Pacer comes with 10-sp 5700. So what?
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Originally Posted by mcours2006 View Post
Why is that surprising? No hard fast rule as to what you can and can't put on the bike. The new Pacer comes with 10-sp 5700. So what?
No rules, but building up a new 4130 frame set that weighs 6.5 lbs with new DA seems odd when you could use 105 or Ultegra for much less and have similar or same performance since shaving grams would not make sense. Of course this could be old DA that the owner got used at a good price or could be group they already owned on another bike and moved over. So nothing wrong with it, just surprising because I think people usually don't spend on DA unless they are building up a racing level bike
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Originally Posted by rms13 View Post
No rules, but building up a new 4130 frame set that weighs 6.5 lbs with new DA seems odd when you could use 105 or Ultegra for much less and have similar or same performance since shaving grams would not make sense. Of course this could be old DA that the owner already owned on another bike and moved over. So nothing wrong with it, just surprising because I think people usually don't spend on DA unless they are building up a racing level bike
I was thinking that, just because it would have been something I'd do, and have done, because I, for one, don't really care if it's a mixed groupset. The bike is for riding, not show. But I do realize that if I were selling it would be more appealing to potential buyers if the bike had a complete groupset.
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Soooooo, this is what it has.

FC-7701/7703.......left crank
FC-7701................right crank
BR-7700.............front and rear brakes
7700..................derailleurs (both)
Cane creek headset
2011 Pacer frame
Shimano sg b53 chainring
Shimano sg b39 chainring

Mavic ssc hubs and rims
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I think Dura Ace 7700 came out in 1997 and I think went to 2004, so you have an older group. If it works fine I would say it's a fine group to ride with.
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I just sold an 06 roubaix with a full dura ace 9 brakes, shifters etc derailleurs etc for $600 so it's about right.
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Originally Posted by mrmb View Post
Soooooo, this is what it has.

FC-7701/7703.......left crank
FC-7701................right crank
BR-7700.............front and rear brakes
7700..................derailleurs (both)
Cane creek headset
2011 Pacer frame
Shimano sg b53 chainring
Shimano sg b39 chainring

Mavic ssc hubs and rims
A lot of nostalgic folks think the 7700 group is the greatest thing ever created. Depending on condition of everything you should be able to get up to $200 for the crankset, deraileurs and brakes and another $100+ for the Ultegra shifters based on recent ebay auctions. But it is sounds like a really nice complete build for $600 and I think you'd be much better suited to keep everything as is and ride the heck out of it
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A lot of nostalgic folks think the 7700 group is the greatest thing ever created.
Count me among them! Sweet, sweet stuff!
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I sold my 7700 group for 6800 and never regretted it.
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