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Old 07-01-15, 02:34 PM
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flights, security gates & bike parts/tools

I'll be flying next week. Out of desire for none of my stuff being confiscated (gone forever)... is there anything to worry about taking the following items with me?

helmet
spd-sl pedals
frame pump
multi tool
spare tubes
tire levers
garmin edge 510
bike shoes with spd-sl cleats
heart rate strap

Anything I need to just leave at home? Or is this all pretty much safe? I'm guessing some of these won't be able to go on as a carry-on?
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Old 07-01-15, 02:41 PM
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Pack it all in the Checked Luggage, going in the Cargo hold, if you worry about TSA not letting you Board with it.
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Old 07-01-15, 03:07 PM
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Your Garmin and possibly your helmet are most likely the only things they will allow to take onboard in a carry-on. Check in everything else. If the officer believes it can cause harm, s/he will confiscate it (tools, straps, tubes, metal parts, etc.) Once I got over $200 of brand new bicycle parts and tools confiscated at the gate. I was so mad at myself for weeks for not checking them in.
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Old 07-01-15, 03:37 PM
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The pump might be problematic because it looks like a club but the rest should be OK. However, should is not that same as will be, you're at the mercy of lightly trained, otherwise unemployable twits.

Just check it and rest easy knowing your odds of having your luggage stolen are lower than having the TSA steal it.
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YMMV, but you'd be wise to check some stuff -- the pump and multitool seem risky. Lately, I've been getting multitools even with small blades that were discovered by TSA and given back to me after some discussion. But I just lost another Leatherman two days ago. Best to check or leave behind anything you don't want to part with.
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Old 07-01-15, 04:03 PM
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only a couple years after 2001 i flew to california with a leatherman in my carryon. it had a (not so small) blade, a saw and scissors

gj homeland insecurity!
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I was going through security at Denver International about 3 years ago, I had a couple of chain rings in my back pack, they drew the attention of more than one TSA worker, I was allowed through with them but was advised to check them next time.
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I've carried on everything on your list except the multi-tool and pump w/o issue. A couple of hex wrenches would likely get through fine instead.

Originally Posted by kevmk81 View Post
I'll be flying next week. Out of desire for none of my stuff being confiscated (gone forever)... is there anything to worry about taking the following items with me?

helmet
spd-sl pedals
frame pump
multi tool
spare tubes
tire levers
garmin edge 510
bike shoes with spd-sl cleats
heart rate strap

Anything I need to just leave at home? Or is this all pretty much safe? I'm guessing some of these won't be able to go on as a carry-on?
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Old 07-02-15, 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Mumonkan View Post
only a couple years after 2001 i flew to california with a leatherman in my carryon. it had a (not so small) blade, a saw and scissors

gj homeland insecurity!
You KNOW you made a report identifying a threat they positively stopped... right?

You were probably going to adjust the recline angle of your seat with that evil multi-tool.
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haha i was in my teens, so i was just happy it didnt get confiscated. it didnt dawn on me till i flew back to nyc the same way and still had it

i was like oh ****. good job guys. guess i wont be flying anywhere for a while.
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Originally Posted by Mumonkan View Post
haha i was in my teens, so i was just happy it didnt get confiscated. it didnt dawn on me till i flew back to nyc the same way and still had it

i was like oh ****. good job guys. guess i wont be flying anywhere for a while.
Was this before or after 9/11 tho?
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Old 07-02-15, 06:04 AM
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after, i think it was 03 or 02
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Originally Posted by kevmk81 View Post
I'll be flying next week. Out of desire for none of my stuff being confiscated (gone forever)... is there anything to worry about taking the following items with me?

helmet
spd-sl pedals
frame pump
multi tool
spare tubes
tire levers
garmin edge 510
bike shoes with spd-sl cleats
heart rate strap

Anything I need to just leave at home? Or is this all pretty much safe? I'm guessing some of these won't be able to go on as a carry-on?

I flew with all of the above in carry on luggage plus some more extensive tools for reassembly (screw driver, pedal wrench) as recently as April through Washington Dulles and Las Vegas. The only issue i sort of had was the screwdriver. anything larger than like 6" they'll take (mine was 5-7/8" without the replaceable tip).
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Old 07-02-15, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post
You were probably going to adjust the recline angle of your seat with that evil multi-tool.
The seats on my recent flight from MSP to PHL did not recline at all.
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Old 07-02-15, 07:28 AM
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I've carried on everything on your list except the multi-tool and pump w/o issue. A couple of hex wrenches would likely get through fine instead.
+1.
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I know you did not include it on your list but for everybody else that may not know CO2 cartridges are a big no no on airplanes.
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I guess there's a bike waiting for you where you're going - otherwise you'd pack all that with your bike, right?

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I don't understand why people want to carry their luggage all around the airport and into the cabin with them. Unless it's a business day trip (when I'll carry a messenger bag), the most I carry on is a book and maybe an overcoat. I know it used to be you could check a fair amount of luggage without paying extra, but do people really resent having to pay the airline 5-10% more for the privilege of not riding in the cargo compartment?
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Old 07-02-15, 08:22 AM
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I guess there's a bike waiting for you where you're going - otherwise you'd pack all that with your bike, right?

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I don't understand why people want to carry their luggage all around the airport and into the cabin with them. Unless it's a business day trip (when I'll carry a messenger bag), the most I carry on is a book and maybe an overcoat. I know it used to be you could check a fair amount of luggage without paying extra, but do people really resent having to pay the airline 5-10% more for the privilege of not riding in the cargo compartment?
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Yes, rental bike where I'm going. I'm just trying to figure out carry on items. I'll have plenty more to worry about having 2 children 2 and under, my wife, me, our luggage, and our camera bag (which will probably be my only carry on - I might hook my helmet on one of the straps, in addition to the things I've already asked about.
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Guns, OK. Bike multi-tool, NO WAY !

PS. don't forget pedal wrench.
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I don't understand why people want to carry their luggage all around the airport and into the cabin with them.
I suspect it is a combination of now having to pay to check a bag (as you mention) but also not having to wait at the baggage carousel, both of which make sense to me.
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Originally Posted by kbarch View Post
I guess there's a bike waiting for you where you're going - otherwise you'd pack all that with your bike, right?

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I don't understand why people want to carry their luggage all around the airport and into the cabin with them. Unless it's a business day trip (when I'll carry a messenger bag), the most I carry on is a book and maybe an overcoat. I know it used to be you could check a fair amount of luggage without paying extra, but do people really resent having to pay the airline 5-10% more for the privilege of not riding in the cargo compartment?
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The airlines did this to themselves. My laptop goes with me everywhere, so there's one backpack, and if I can get my luggage down to one rolling bag, it's going on the plane too. I don't even check a bag when the company's paying for it because I don't like waiting for my bag, I don't like it when the bag is damaged by jackass luggage handlers and I really really don't like it when they lose the thing. No thanks!
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I don't understand why people want to carry their luggage all around the airport and into the cabin with them.
Two reasons:

1) Putting it in the hold gives them a chance to lose it, and sometimes they will

2) Even if everything works great, it takes forever for them to get it out.

I only check luggage in less developed countries since they have a simple system that always works -- you carry your luggage out to the tarmac, you throw it on a cargo net, you watch it go in the hold, and they toss it on the ground when you get out. Very fast and easy. In the US, they take forever, and multiple times I've seen airline representatives argue with a straight face to passengers who didn't receive their luggage that it's a CHECKING fee, not a DELIVERY fee.

Having said that, I'm a huge fan of enforcing size restrictions on carryons and I wouldn't object to fees for all carryons to help people figure out what they need. Flying is a miserable experience in the US and between ground and airport logistics, security, the fact that schedules get screwed up frequently and the cost is almost always borne by the consumer, I look for alternative transportation if it's less than a 14 hr drive.
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I suspect it is a combination of now having to pay to check a bag (as you mention) but also not having to wait at the baggage carousel, both of which make sense to me.
And you have control over handling aka loss and damage. Personally, I wish the airlines would let you check 1 bag free, it would make things more pleasant for everyone, passengers and crew. And I'd bet it would cost the airline nothing.
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Apparentley you can take anything you want on the plane...


TSA audit reveals major flaws in security protocols | Deseret News

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Good point on reducing damage from handling. Apparently, though, the airlines have made a bunch of money by charging for checking bags and by reducing their costs in handling luggage; there was a story about it on NPR yesterday.

Seems that Southwest is the last remaining US airline to offer free baggage check, and they are expected to start charging in the near future -- pressure from shareholders, apparently.

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And you have control over handling aka loss and damage. Personally, I wish the airlines would let you check 1 bag free, it would make things more pleasant for everyone, passengers and crew. And I'd bet it would cost the airline nothing.
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