It's not just a new black bike... it's accented and nuanced!
07-28-15, 09:14 AM
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It's not just a new black bike... it's accented and nuanced!
Although popular with many, I've never owned a black car (nor before a bike) but I am enjoying my first black bike (accented with bits of white and red). Black certainly has become popular with manufacturers and that probably means many like me have been drawn to the look.
I only recently realized however that my new Felt is not simply, black. It's Satin Black! I knew there was a difference between matte or flat black vs. gloss black but there's more.
I've had a lot of different glossy-colored cars and bikes over time but I've never been moved to put a coat of wax on a bike, not even the most beloved of'm. Matte or flat is certainly asking for nothing special like a coat of wax but to me it's sort of an ugly color.
Sure enough – those crafty bike peddlers picked up on something different about my feelings toward cars vs. bikes and hooked me with this in-between color bike. And, in some undefinable sort of way it makes perfect sense.
I only recently realized however that my new Felt is not simply, black. It's Satin Black! I knew there was a difference between matte or flat black vs. gloss black but there's more.
I've had a lot of different glossy-colored cars and bikes over time but I've never been moved to put a coat of wax on a bike, not even the most beloved of'm. Matte or flat is certainly asking for nothing special like a coat of wax but to me it's sort of an ugly color.
Sure enough – those crafty bike peddlers picked up on something different about my feelings toward cars vs. bikes and hooked me with this in-between color bike. And, in some undefinable sort of way it makes perfect sense.
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I don't understand the black bike love...for me it's about the last on my preferred color list. Unfortunately, it seems like most bikes are coming black now..."murdered out" or with a few color accents.
Give me colorful, I say.
Give me colorful, I say.
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What doesn't make sense is that you don't post a picture of the bike, but rather describe it verbally to us. 
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Paint = weight. Function over form.
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^^^paint is sooooooooooo heavy.
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Oh...i forgot my eyeroll.
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We live in an age where the Johnny Cash Undertaker's Professional Team colors dominate the industry.
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Even for those that like "nude" bikes, there is a great variety of colors that carbon fiber, and carbon fiber, kevlar composites come in. And, one only needs to add the color to the top aesthetic layer of a multi-layer fiber composite. I can't imagine a significant weight penalty.
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Our Calfee is all bare except decals . Paint would add half a pound.
Why pay thousands to save a few
hundred grams only to add it back with paint?
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It's not just a new black bike... it's accented and nuanced!
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My Wilier has a tiny bit of paint, rest bare. Even a simple pair job would add 15% or more to the widget of the frame.
Our Calfee is all bare except decals . Paint would add half a pound.
Why pay thousands to save a few
hundred grams only to add it back with paint?
Our Calfee is all bare except decals . Paint would add half a pound.
Why pay thousands to save a few
hundred grams only to add it back with paint?
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My Wilier has a tiny bit of paint, rest bare. Even a simple pair job would add 15% or more to the widget of the frame.
Our Calfee is all bare except decals . Paint would add half a pound.
Why pay thousands to save a few
hundred grams only to add it back with paint?
Our Calfee is all bare except decals . Paint would add half a pound.
Why pay thousands to save a few
hundred grams only to add it back with paint?
Once again the Bike Forums fallacy that losing weight from both the bike and yourself are some how mutually exclusive.
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I would never NOT get a good color because of some 400 grams of weight savings and force myself into bare carbon.
silly.
IMHO, of course.
I did see a Trek Vapor coat that I liked. It was purple and really went well with the rest of the bike. The vapor coat is supposed to be lighter than regular paint jobs.
silly.
IMHO, of course.
I did see a Trek Vapor coat that I liked. It was purple and really went well with the rest of the bike. The vapor coat is supposed to be lighter than regular paint jobs.
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I would never NOT get a good color because of some 400 grams of weight savings and force myself into bare carbon.
silly.
IMHO, of course.
I did see a Trek Vapor coat that I liked. It was purple and really went well with the rest of the bike. The vapor coat is supposed to be lighter than regular paint jobs.
silly.
IMHO, of course.
I did see a Trek Vapor coat that I liked. It was purple and really went well with the rest of the bike. The vapor coat is supposed to be lighter than regular paint jobs.
Depends on priorities and what you want the bike for. Beautiful steel bike, chromed lugs, sure I'd want a beautiful paint job.
State of the art CF racing bike, the form follows function aspect of bare carbon makes the aesthetic.
The reason so much is black today is either actual weight savings, or at least trying to create the look of a light racy cf bike.
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So, how much does a good iron oxide layer add to the weight?
