Man Biking Across US for Charity Killed in Crash
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You can turn this on for AT&T phones but it is really annoying on public transit. The phone does not know if you are a driver or a passenger.
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The technology is already in the cars that are on the road now, its just a matter of getting the public to like the new tech. People can understand an accidental death in a freak accident, life happens. People can't take technology failing leading to an accidental death, even though it could/will be 1000x safer then human interactions.
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No one advocates impaired driving! But overly harsh or tyrannical punishments doesn't benefit individuals, the victims family, or society as a whole. Causing physical and/or emotional discomfort, stealing away many of the pleasures of life through imprisonment, may provide a slight degree of sadistic pleasure for some. But at a cost of equal discomfort and suffering for the motorist's family.
There is NO simple easy solution. But maybe instead of deliberating on how to punish those who cause us fear... we should entertain thoughts of how to discard our fears. Since no one gets out of here alive. Maybe we should be more concerned about finding joy as opposed to living longer in vindictiveness and fear.
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Yes... the future... it is a safe and elegantly peaceful place of flying cars and cheap nuclear energy OR the apocalyptic, polluted and fuel starved anything goes... mad max-walking dead nightmare. Or just maybe.... the future will be much like the past was... which is much like today is.
15 year prison sentences are great things.... unless your the 15 year child whose parent has "been away" all of your remembered life.
No one advocates impaired driving! But overly harsh or tyrannical punishments doesn't benefit individuals, the victims family, or society as a whole. Causing physical and/or emotional discomfort, stealing away many of the pleasures of life through imprisonment, may provide a slight degree of sadistic pleasure for some. But at a cost of equal discomfort and suffering for the motorist's family.
There is NO simple easy solution. But maybe instead of deliberating on how to punish those who cause us fear... we should entertain thoughts of how to discard our fears. Since no one gets out of here alive. Maybe we should be more concerned about finding joy as opposed to living longer in vindictiveness and fear.
15 year prison sentences are great things.... unless your the 15 year child whose parent has "been away" all of your remembered life.
No one advocates impaired driving! But overly harsh or tyrannical punishments doesn't benefit individuals, the victims family, or society as a whole. Causing physical and/or emotional discomfort, stealing away many of the pleasures of life through imprisonment, may provide a slight degree of sadistic pleasure for some. But at a cost of equal discomfort and suffering for the motorist's family.
There is NO simple easy solution. But maybe instead of deliberating on how to punish those who cause us fear... we should entertain thoughts of how to discard our fears. Since no one gets out of here alive. Maybe we should be more concerned about finding joy as opposed to living longer in vindictiveness and fear.
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Yes... the future... it is a safe and elegantly peaceful place of flying cars and cheap nuclear energy OR the apocalyptic, polluted and fuel starved anything goes... mad max-walking dead nightmare. Or just maybe.... the future will be much like the past was... which is much like today is.
15 year prison sentences are great things.... unless your the 15 year child whose parent has "been away" all of your remembered life.
No one advocates impaired driving! But overly harsh or tyrannical punishments doesn't benefit individuals, the victims family, or society as a whole. Causing physical and/or emotional discomfort, stealing away many of the pleasures of life through imprisonment, may provide a slight degree of sadistic pleasure for some. But at a cost of equal discomfort and suffering for the motorist's family.
15 year prison sentences are great things.... unless your the 15 year child whose parent has "been away" all of your remembered life.
No one advocates impaired driving! But overly harsh or tyrannical punishments doesn't benefit individuals, the victims family, or society as a whole. Causing physical and/or emotional discomfort, stealing away many of the pleasures of life through imprisonment, may provide a slight degree of sadistic pleasure for some. But at a cost of equal discomfort and suffering for the motorist's family.
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Not me. I'm all for punishing those that cause us death. Dave Cutter... has never seen an accident he couldn't blame or condemn a cyclist for.
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A sentence functions as a deterrent as well as punishment........ It's a slippery slope you're on: so murders shouldn't get long sentences because it harms the murders' families? Where in the continuum of crime do you draw your line? I kinda like it where it's at, myself, when someone's actions causes another's death.
These calls for punishment come from fear.... not logical reasoning. I can not begin to guess what "punishment" would satisfy anyone's fear. In the decades of debate about death sentences.... no conclusive stats have ever been found. But I might add that there is at least one public square where women accused of cheating on their husbands have been stoned to death..... every week for the last 1500 years. Yet... the women apparently still cheat.
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Funny! Or is your thoughts so clouded that you believe that simple lie?!?!? Cycling isn't for everyone. Some people are just too fearful of the risks.
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...... I do have 1-3 close calls per week and 99% of the time the person has a phone in their hand. Everyone that is texting and watching videos etc consciously made a decision to do that just like he person that drinks a six pack before driving. If they then kill someone there should be consequences and their family can visit them in prison for the rest of their lives and hopefully their kids will know not to make the same mistakes
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15 year prison sentences are great things.... unless your the 15 year child whose parent has "been away" all of your remembered life.
No one advocates impaired driving! But overly harsh or tyrannical punishments doesn't benefit individuals, the victims family, or society as a whole. Causing physical and/or emotional discomfort, stealing away many of the pleasures of life through imprisonment, may provide a slight degree of sadistic pleasure for some. But at a cost of equal discomfort and suffering for the motorist's family.
There is NO simple easy solution. But maybe instead of deliberating on how to punish those who cause us fear... we should entertain thoughts of how to discard our fears. Since no one gets out of here alive. Maybe we should be more concerned about finding joy as opposed to living longer in vindictiveness and fear.
No one advocates impaired driving! But overly harsh or tyrannical punishments doesn't benefit individuals, the victims family, or society as a whole. Causing physical and/or emotional discomfort, stealing away many of the pleasures of life through imprisonment, may provide a slight degree of sadistic pleasure for some. But at a cost of equal discomfort and suffering for the motorist's family.
There is NO simple easy solution. But maybe instead of deliberating on how to punish those who cause us fear... we should entertain thoughts of how to discard our fears. Since no one gets out of here alive. Maybe we should be more concerned about finding joy as opposed to living longer in vindictiveness and fear.
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You must deal with different types of people than I see on a daily basis. Nothing I see makes me believe humanity is universally capable of such.
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Tell me this, in your opinion, what is a fair sentence for the person who kills a cyclist due to texting or drunk driving?
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Just so I understand you... you don't believe that a 15 year sentence for a repeat offender of drunk driving (who takes a life) is fair because of the harm it inflicts on the driver & their family... you think that these sentences are a sadistic reaction from fear (although there are about 30 deaths from drunk driving in the U.S. each year)... and you think that instead of harsh punishments for crimes that cause deaths, your country should just accept the fact that one day we all die & just get over it.?
So let me understand you.... you think we should imprison every American that drinks alcohol?
A fair sentence? "for the person who kills a cyclist" I don't understand the question. I've never tried to differentiate the people of the world based on sports or hobbies (only uniform style/color). Which "side" would this cyclist be on?
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I think you're avoiding the question.
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In 1982 26,173 were killed in alcohol-impaired driving crashes. In 1992 there were 18,290. One of your premises is that the harsh sentences imposed these days are ineffective. The statistics suggest otherwise.
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If I am killed by a distracted driver, my wife and kid won't have me around for the rest of their lives. You are correct that I have no compassion for ignorant, reckless people in our society. Read some Hobbes. If we dont want to hold people accountable, ISIS will be decapitating people in our streets before too long
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No. Although I am plenty old enough to remember those days. I have no messages of enlightenment to share ether. I tire of reading the sermons posted here most by the followers of the more recent religions.
But I can assure you. There are better ways to deal with fear than forcing laws and punishment on ourselves.
But I can assure you. There are better ways to deal with fear than forcing laws and punishment on ourselves.
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No. Although I am plenty old enough to remember those days. I have no messages of enlightenment to share ether. I tire of reading the sermons posted here most by the followers of the more recent religions.
But I can assure you. There are better ways to deal with fear than forcing laws and punishment on ourselves.
But I can assure you. There are better ways to deal with fear than forcing laws and punishment on ourselves.
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I think you've mistaken compassion for inactivity!