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Help me buy my 1st clipless pedals and shoes!

Old 04-25-05, 09:54 PM
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Help me buy my 1st clipless pedals and shoes!

I'm itching to get some clipless pedals and shoes for my because everybody tells me your stroke is alot more efficient with the stiff soles of biking shoes and the isolation of the clipless device.

Suggestions for pedals? Good brands for the $$? Brands to stay away from?

What's the least I should spends for shoes and what type of composition? Thanks, Sincity
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speedplay...any of their models
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heh, *burp, posting this late you get teh drunkards Oh well, I have shimano SPD mountain bike pedals and cleats. I've never rode with anything but them, so I am no help at all to you. I dunno why I am even posting this. I did ride 100 miles with em last weekend and didn't have any "hotspots" so if you are looking for cheep and somewhat easy clip-ins (you can clip in on either side of the pedal) then shimano SPDs may be for you.....or maybe not...
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Will these be solely for riding or are you EVER going to be walking around in them off the bike? If you will be doing some walking then I say get MTB style shoes and pedals even for a road bike as they are much easier to walk in. For MTB pedals I like the TIme ATAC line as for me they seem to have better vertical retention than the Shimano line, I always felt like I would pull out the top of my SPDs even though I never did it wasn't a reassuring feeling. Crank Bros makes several pedals land their system is similar to Time and I guess they swap back and fourth which is considered better so pick your poison there.

Shoes are like saddles, find your budget and then get a quality pari that FITS YOUR FEET. This will be different for different people. I love my Sidi Genius 4s, they are a road shoe but they make the same shoe in a MTB sole called Dominator. Sidis aren't cheap but they feel like slippers on your feet and come in std and wide widths. I also like the Specialized line of shoes, check out the Comp MTB shoe (or road if you go with a road shoe), lots of performance for the price, I use the Specialized Comp MTB for my daily commute and MTB riding (got them before I could afford Sidis and they are holding up great).

Single sided road version of the Time ATAC
Dual sided ATAC Alium (lowest model but still good) with Sidis.
Same pedal, higher end Sidi
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Old 04-26-05, 05:23 AM
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crankbrothers...any style. great pedal. I currently use the cadny Sl on a road bike with sidi MTB shoes. Good Luck.
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Ever have any knee pain issues? I started out with SPD mtb pedals but experienced knee problems, especially climbing. The problems and pain disappeared when I switched to Speedplay Frogs. More expensive, but obviously worth it to (1) ride pain-free and (2) avoid developing potentially serious medical problems.

And, having a wide foot, I also second the good words about Sidi Dominator mtb shoes.
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Old 04-26-05, 05:47 AM
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Go with Speedplay. They are the easiest to get clipped in and out of. They are very light and they will save your knees. Since you are a fairly new rider, I would suggestion shoes in the $100 range. Be sure to get something that fits you properly. Sizing differs between brands.
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I have Shimano Pedals and Shoes w/ SPD's and tree trunks for legs and haven't pulled out yet. I enjoy the ability to walk around after a ride. I haven't noticed any hot spots yet.

Oh an you WILL fall with them on at least once. Took me 100 miles, but I finally fell. It was quite comical. My new "potential girlfriend" and I were out riding a half century on the trail. Me falling over while standing still did wonders for my ego!
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Originally Posted by NJWheelBuilder
Go with Speedplay. They are the easiest to get clipped in and out of. They are very light and they will save your knees. Since you are a fairly new rider, I would suggestion shoes in the $100 range. Be sure to get something that fits you properly. Sizing differs between brands.
Second that. Get the Frogs if you want something easy to walk in. Or get one of the X series road pedals for the larger contact area, and assuming that you don't plan on walking a lot.

By the way, Frogs are self-cleaning while the X pedals are not. I have both Frogs and X2's and love them both. I feel that the X2 has even MORE float than the Frogs.
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Originally Posted by NJWheelBuilder
Go with Speedplay. They are the easiest to get clipped in and out of. They are very light and they will save your knees. Since you are a fairly new rider, I would suggestion shoes in the $100 range. Be sure to get something that fits you properly. Sizing differs between brands.
I'm a newb and this is the route I took. I've been very happy with my purchase. i could have spent less, but I went for a system that would be easy. Haven't looked back since!
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Old 04-26-05, 09:29 AM
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I have Shimano Ultegra on one bike, Speedplay X5's on the other - Ummm...would you like to buy a pair of Shimano Ultegras....if you get my drift.
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I've been very happy with the Speedplay X-series pedals and the Sidi Shoes. You will want to try on shoes at your LBS so you can see which shoes fit you the best.
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i ride take off shimano mtb pedals (shimano 540 i believe). Set a budget for what you can spend, then visit your LBS, take your bike, they can show you pedals, fit them, size you for shoes and adjust you for them while you wait. You may want to call ahead and make a reservation so that someone will be ready to show you pedals/'shoes. If you ride long distances stay with road pedals and shoes, bigger platform spreads pressure on foot better. If you ride shorter distances, lots of stops, want to walk around in your shoes, look at mtb specific shoes. I wear specialized shoes. Check and see if your LBS has pedals that they take off new bikes when buyers want to upgrade/downgrade pedals at time of purchase. This is a good way to save a lot of money. I rode toe straps and shoes with cleats for years and love the feeling of clipless. Good Luck and let us know what route you take.
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Frogs are self cleaning
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Second that. Get the Frogs if you want something easy to walk in. Or get one of the X series road pedals for the larger contact area, and assuming that you don't plan on walking a lot.

By the way, Frogs are self-cleaning while the X pedals are not. I have both Frogs and X2's and love them both. I feel that the X2 has even MORE float than the Frogs.
Like an oven? What the hell does that mean. Sorry, I'm a dumbass rookie...
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Just thought of this - if you decide to go w/Speedplay pedals, check the Speedplay website for info on a couple of shoe lines that are NOT compatible w/their cleats.
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Originally Posted by Sincitycycler
Like an oven? What the hell does that mean. Sorry, I'm a dumbass rookie...
It means if you step in a pile of mud, the pedals will still work and will actually clean or remove the stuff while you ride. Frogs were designed to be moutain bike pedals, so this feature kind of makes sense.

X series pedals on the other hand were designed for road bikes, and will give immediate problems if you get the cleats dirty. (They figure when you ride a road bike you won't spend much time walking around in the mud I suppose.) I once stepped in a fresh pile of dog cr*p with my road shoes and didn't realize it right away. I found I couldn't clip in, and once I finally got the shoe clipped in, I couldn't get back out. I then discovered what had happened, and spent a VERY unhappy 10 minutes cleaning out my cleats before I could ride again.

With Frogs, this would not have been a problem, and the mess on the shoes might have been discovered some time later - by sense of smell perhaps...

If you buy the X series pedals, you should also pick up the snap-on cleat covers to put on the shoes before you walk anywhere. The cleat covers are sold as "coffee shop covers" which I guess means when you ride the road bike, never get off the bike except for coffee... Mmmm coffee!

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EDIT: By the way, don't be afraid to put mountain bike pedals on a road bike, or vice versa. I swap mine around all the time depending on what I'm doing. If I decide to commute to work on my road bike I put on the Frogs because it's easier walking thru the lobby of my building, up and down stairs etc, while wearing my off-road shoes. If I plan to take the hybrid out for a LONG ride, I may put the X pedals on it because the larger contact area of the cleats prevent my feet from getting sore spots (hot spots) during long rides. Hope this helps.

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I only have experience with SPDs and Eggbeaters. Of the two, I much prefer the Eggs. They clip out MUCH more easily and are quieter. I also think the design overall is more elegant and simple, which I like. I was tempted to try something from Speedplay since they seem to get rave reviews from most users but found a great deal on the Eggbeaters.

As for shoes, I can only say get a pair with velcro straps as opposed to laces. Nothing to tuck away, more comfortable, quicker on and off.
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Originally Posted by steined
I have Shimano Pedals and Shoes w/ SPD's and tree trunks for legs and haven't pulled out yet. I enjoy the ability to walk around after a ride. I haven't noticed any hot spots yet.

Oh an you WILL fall with them on at least once. Took me 100 miles, but I finally fell. It was quite comical. My new "potential girlfriend" and I were out riding a half century on the trail. Me falling over while standing still did wonders for my ego!


Thats funny I have a similiar set up took me 100 miles before I fell over. The nashbar spd's are just as good as the shimano, great cheap way to try it.
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My most recent fall was at a race...I pulled up to my friend's parked car to say hi, hit the brakes, and couldn't get my foot out. Down I went in front of half of the people racing.

That was embaressing.
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Whatever pedals you go with, good luck. As for shoes, you can end this thread right now: Sidi Genius 4. Thread over and out.
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Are the Speedplay Frogs worse or the same on the knees as the X2s?
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Originally Posted by Umbra
Are the Speedplay Frogs worse or the same on the knees as the X2s?
I think the X2's have even more float. No Speedplay pedal is hard on the knees however.
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Originally Posted by gcasillo
Whatever pedals you go with, good luck. As for shoes, you can end this thread right now: Sidi Genius 4. Thread over and out.
I'd agree on the shoes, but Genius 5 is on the shelves...
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Speedplay X-5s and Shimano R130 shoes, here. Love 'em both a lot.

Had Shimano 520s and Looks before, there's no comparison.
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