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Disc braked road bikes are coming

Old 08-09-15, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by VNA View Post
Also on disk brake's calipers/pistons burning and melting on Shimanos on long descents.
Disc brakes do just as well as rim brakes on long descents. Rim brakes can also heat up too much on descents, resulting in tires blowing off the rim.

Also, carbon rims are not a great braking surface.


May be advantageous for MTB particularly in mud and wet conditions but not sure for road bikes???
Maybe?!? Or, maybe rains enough in Florida (which is pretty flat btw) that some people think discs are beneficial. I'd say it is up to the rider to decide what they need.
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Old 08-09-15, 08:10 PM
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Each to his/her own but I see no advantage unless one lives in mountains or has carbon hoops. At 210# I have zero issues with my Ultegra or DA calipers stopping me, wet or dry in the mountains or in the flatlands. the less parts the better.
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Old 08-09-15, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Alias530 View Post

The benefits of discs are pretty obvious and the lack of a NEED is not an argument against them.
There are lots of negatives too. I have them on my CX and like it. On a new road bike, I don't know.
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Old 08-09-15, 08:22 PM
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I really don't want a bike with hydraulic discs because they require more maintenance. I have nothing against them otherwise.
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Whenever someone posts against disc brakes I just assume they have cheap wheels.

One of the BEST things about disc brakes is that it moves the wear/maintenance item from an expensive carbon rim, which, once you get to where you can replace it, you might as well do new spokes/nipples too, to a $30 piece of metal that takes 60 seconds to replace.
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Old 08-09-15, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by dksix View Post
I really like the look of the disc and if I buy a new bike disc will be one of the features I'll be wanting, Disc brakes stop better, how could brakes that stop better be a bad thing?
+1

I actually look forward to my first plastic (CF) air-weight, with disc brakes and more gears than I'll ever use, shifted electronically with the push of a button. And why wouldn't I? Do I need all that crap? No way... but I ride for fun.. not out of need.

But I also love the clean straight lines of my vintage-classic bikes. Who couldn't love Down tube shifters, and no need for special shoes because the toe cages keep feet secured.

I think I just love bicycles and the feelings I get when riding. I have plenty of room in my heart for all types and styles of bikes.
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Old 08-09-15, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Bacciagalupe View Post
Nor is the bike industry pulling the wool over anyone's eyes. They're offering disc because buyers want it. Seems pretty straight-forward to me.
who are these buyers you refer to?
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Old 08-09-15, 08:31 PM
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My Raleigh Sojourn's got 46,000 miles on it now.
My CoMotion Primera's got 21,500 miles on it now.
Both have disk brakes.
So this isn't exactly new.
After seeing maybe a dozen extensive threads on the pros and cons of disk brakes, I still haven't seen any convincing reason to use them or to avoid them.
It's like complaining because other people are riding blue bikes when you like red.
Riding in Florida, we all know it's flat and you don't need no stinking gears there, but bet you everyone's loading up on the 11 speeds now, too.
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Old 08-09-15, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by bt View Post
who are these buyers you refer to?
They are selling like crazy in my area to the roadies. But, we do have a lot of hills and rain.
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Old 08-09-15, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Alias530 View Post
Whenever someone posts against disc brakes I just assume they have cheap wheels.
I'm not sold on disc brakes for my riding and I have two sets of Zipps.
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One of the reasons I passed on the Cannondale Synapse was the disc brakes. The comparably equipped Giant Defy was 2 pounds lighter and, honestly, the "cheap" Tektro calipers felt better on the test ride.

On a side note, I know that Ultegra/Dura Ace brakes are better, but I cannont complain about Tektros. My last Cannondale had them as does the Giant. Even with stock pads they work well enough. I'll cahnge out to Shimano pads this fall. They survived a 500 mile 8 day tour with some rain and plenty of hills. Can't understand the hate.
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Originally Posted by StephenH View Post
My Raleigh Sojourn's got 46,000 miles on it now.
My CoMotion Primera's got 21,500 miles on it now.
Both have disk brakes.
So this isn't exactly new.
After seeing maybe a dozen extensive threads on the pros and cons of disk brakes, I still haven't seen any convincing reason to use them or to avoid them.
It's like complaining because other people are riding blue bikes when you like red.
Riding in Florida, we all know it's flat and you don't need no stinking gears there, but bet you everyone's loading up on the 11 speeds now, too.
you are out of your mind!!!!






Blue bikes suck!!!
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Originally Posted by StanSeven View Post
I'm not sold on disc brakes for my riding and I have two sets of Zipps.
I just bought some non disc aeolus 3's
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I've been on road disc since 2008, it should've been here long ago. I'll bet the OP has 11 gears with a double crank even though he lives in pancake flat Floriduh.
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Mountain bikes, I get it. Tandems, sure why not. Commuters in wet, yeah I could see it.

True road bike, Nah!
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Originally Posted by StanSeven View Post
I'm not sold on disc brakes for my riding and I have two sets of Zipps.
I didn't say I'd always be right
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Originally Posted by mrbubbles View Post
I've been on road disc since 2008, it should've been here long ago. I'll bet the OP has 11 gears with a double crank even though he lives in pancake flat Floriduh.
How many modern road bikes do you know of that don't come with a double? I can think of one (Venge Lunch Race). And how many road bikes above $1k don't have 11spd?

2x11 is what just about all road bikes come with these days.
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Originally Posted by Alias530 View Post
How many modern road bikes do you know of that don't come with a double? I can think of one (Venge Lunch Race). And how many road bikes above $1k don't have 11spd?

2x11 is what just about all road bikes come with these days.
Only because it was forced upon us by the evil industry.....


Or, we would all be riding three speeds, the peak of bike performance. One for uphill, one for flat, and one for downhill. The rest is all waste and weight!!!
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I've never had a problem stopping my road bike.

I use aluminium wheels though...so.....


my mountain bike's xt hydro disc brakes squeal when they get wet. It would make me insane to hear that when riding on the road, so until they make it so they will absolutely not make noise, I won't be in the market for a disc brake roadie.
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Originally Posted by Frreed View Post
One of the reasons I passed on the Cannondale Synapse was the disc brakes. The comparably equipped Giant Defy was 2 pounds lighter and, honestly, the "cheap" Tektro calipers felt better on the test ride.

On a side note, I know that Ultegra/Dura Ace brakes are better, but I cannont complain about Tektros. My last Cannondale had them as does the Giant. Even with stock pads they work well enough. I'll cahnge out to Shimano pads this fall. They survived a 500 mile 8 day tour with some rain and plenty of hills. Can't understand the hate.
What type and brand of discs on the synapse?

Tektro dual pivots are subpar. There is no question about it.

I have "axis" (specialized) dual pivots, which I assume are rebranded tektro's and even with kool stop salmons, they can't match shimano dual pivots made 25 years ago.

One of the little mentioned fun facts about STI's is how huge the hoods are. They place the levers farther away from the bar and for riders like myself with average sized hands, increase reach and decrease braking power.
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Originally Posted by Alias530 View Post
And how many road bikes above $1k don't have 11spd?

2x11 is what just about all road bikes come with these days.
This is just ridiculous.

Giant Defy 1 is one of the best deals around and their least expensive bike with 11 speed. It retails for $1425. Or over $1500 with tax.

Their defy 2 is $1125, with tiagra 10.
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Originally Posted by sam_cyclist View Post
This is just ridiculous.

Giant Defy 1 is one of the best deals around and their least expensive bike with 11 speed. It retails for $1425. Or over $1500 with tax.

Their defy 2 is $1125, with tiagra 10.
Lacking imagination much? Change the price to $1,200 if it makes you feel better. The point is valid and still stands. Bikes these days come with 11spd. I was addressing a comment that would suggest that someone living in Florida would have something other than what is on damn near all bikes.
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Originally Posted by Alias530 View Post
Lacking imagination much? Change the price to $1,200 if it makes you feel better. The point is valid and still stands. Bikes these days come with 11spd. I was addressing a comment that would suggest that someone living in Florida would have something other than what is on damn near all bikes.
You lack the ability to read. You know, that skill they taught you in first grade? Defy 1. 11 speed. $1425 before tax. Over $1500 after tax. Defy 2, 10 speed, $1125. Over $1200 with tax.

The starting price for 11 speed is not $1K. It's not $1200. It's $1500. Yes, there are bikes that cost less than $1500 and don't have 11 speed.

If you can't read, don't bother to post.
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Originally Posted by sam_cyclist View Post
You lack the ability to read. You know, that skill they taught you in first grade? Defy 1. 11 speed. $1425 before tax. Over $1500 after tax. Defy 2, 10 speed, $1125. Over $1200 with tax.

The starting price for 11 speed is not $1K. It's not $1200. It's $1500. Yes, there are bikes that cost less than $1500 and don't have 11 speed.

If you can't read, don't bother to post.
I didn't say one word about Giant, YOU did. I asked a general question about how many bikes come with 10spd at the price point. Good for you, you found one. I didn't say one didn't exist.

And since the price range was revised to $1,200, you still didn't find one. You found one BELOW $1,200 that is 10spd, not one that is ABOVE $1,200 without it.

And in the spirit of debunking statements, here's a bike under $1,500 from a reputable brand with 11spd. Your statement about $1,500 being the starting point is now useless: http://www.feltbicycles.com/USA/2015...rance/z85.aspx


Ohhhh and loooooooook. One BELOW $1k with 11spd. What now? http://www.performancebike.com/bikes...400309__400309

Starting point $1500 for 105? that's when you start to get either a carbon frame or Ultegra.

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