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New Rider Looking for a Bike

Old 08-20-15, 10:23 PM
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New Rider Looking for a Bike

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I am a new rider (In terms of serious riding, not just learned how to ride), and have been riding vintage bikes for a while. Recently I have wanted to start road cycling. I am now looking for a new entry-ish level road bike under $900. I am really intrigued by the Giant Defy 5, opinions on this bike would be much appreciated. If you have any other suggestions for a bike like this, please share.

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Old 08-20-15, 10:45 PM
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The Defy 5 is a good bike, but you can get a better bike with $900. There is a Performance Bike in Fort Collins. I think you should check them out. They will have some options in your price range. Here is an example....

Ridley Fenix AR2 Tiagra 7005 Road Bike - 2015 Performance Exclusive
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Old 08-21-15, 02:53 AM
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$900 (or so) can be quite a bit in the used market, especially if you open up your search to the Denver area.

https://fortcollins.craigslist.org/bik/5174469368.html
https://denver.craigslist.org/bik/5158741133.html

I suppose there is a lot of "trickle down" technology in the new mid-range bikes, so they are getting brifters and etc. However, the Giant Defy 5 looks like it does have quite a few compromises with 8 speed Claris shifters. Certainly it is all functional, and may be better than your 80's "Mystery Bike".
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My first road bike was a Fuji 1.5, in stock at LBS for 809, the Tiagra disk version would have met your price ceiling but not in stock and Fuji had picked WHITE as frame color. The 105 rim brake version might well make your price range and make adding a set of wheels a lot more varied shopping experience. IMHO you want to shop hard and get into at least Sora....sora was really great for the over 3000 miles I put on that bike :-). But if you can line up a bike at performance you will have enough points to get a pair of bib shorts maybe too :-). They run a Tuesday lunch special too I hear, some thing like 10% off from noon to 2pm ?
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OP, how tall are you? This is a good deal IMO https://cosprings.craigslist.org/bik/5150046678.html

Of course if it doesn't fit, it's a crappy deal.
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New to biking? I'd recommend staying away from the craigslist route. A new bike has much less work issues and a warranty, two good things for a newbie to have. Go to your local bike shop and find a nice giant, trek, or specialized. Try for something 1 step up from the bottom, like a trek 1.2 for example. Get something with a carbon fork and most importantly get a decent fitting with the bike. Don't seetle for a mere "here stand over this and see if it clears your undercarriage". If the shop is reluctant to help fit you on a "basement" bike, remind them that if you're happy with the set up they provide you with, you'll be sure to be back in the future as you crave higher level componetry. Not saying that you can't find a great deal on Craigslist or online bike shops, but it's a tricky minefield to navigate if you're not sure what you want.
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Originally Posted by side_FX View Post
New to biking? I'd recommend staying away from the craigslist route. A new bike has much less work issues and a warranty, two good things for a newbie to have. Go to your local bike shop and find a nice giant, trek, or specialized. Try for something 1 step up from the bottom, like a trek 1.2 for example. Get something with a carbon fork and most importantly get a decent fitting with the bike. Don't seetle for a mere "here stand over this and see if it clears your undercarriage". If the shop is reluctant to help fit you on a "basement" bike, remind them that if you're happy with the set up they provide you with, you'll be sure to be back in the future as you crave higher level componetry. Not saying that you can't find a great deal on Craigslist or online bike shops, but it's a tricky minefield to navigate if you're not sure what you want.
Some good points made here. I do question why you would steer the OP to only look at those three brands? If the OP is not going used he would probably find a better deal at Performance bike with $900. They have double points going on this weekend.
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Originally Posted by seymour1910 View Post
Some good points made here. I do question why you would steer the OP to only look at those three brands? If the OP is not going used he would probably find a better deal at Performance bike with $900. They have double points going on this weekend.
I just listed those three as an example of the more common shop brands. I guess I should have mentioned Cannondale as well. I think performance bike has some awesome deals as well, particularly with the Fuji bikes. My only problem with them is, at least in my area, I find their selection is very hit or miss and they are quick to try to fit you to the inventory the have in stock rather than order something for you that would be a better fit. That's fine for an educated consumer, but as a newbie I'd like to find a shop that really wants to build a lasting relationship as I mature as a cyclist, not just move the stock on the floor.
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Originally Posted by side_FX View Post
I just listed those three as an example of the more common shop brands. I guess I should have mentioned Cannondale as well. I think performance bike has some awesome deals as well, particularly with the Fuji bikes. My only problem with them is, at least in my area, I find their selection is very hit or miss and they are quick to try to fit you to the inventory the have in stock rather than order something for you that would be a better fit. That's fine for an educated consumer, but as a newbie I'd like to find a shop that really wants to build a lasting relationship as I mature as a cyclist, not just move the stock on the floor.
Well, that happens at a lot of LBSs. That is why I always suggest to go to several LBSs, and try all the different brands that each sells.

Giant is a good brand for intro bikes, but so are Trek, Specialized, Fuji, Cannondale, Jamis, Raleigh, Scott, etc.

When you visit several different LBSs, including Performance and the place that has the Giant, tell them that you are looking for bike with a good fit, and tell them your budget. Let them know that you are going to several LBSs to road test bikes. This will let them know that if they don't try to fit you to a good bike for you and your budget, that you probably won't be back.

Visiting several LBSs also lets you see how the LBS treats you. Because picking the LBS that treats you well, could be the deciding factor in a purchase.

When you do road test bikes, make sure to right down exactly what model you tested, and the price that they are quoting you. This way, you can download the specifications on the bikes at home, so you can compare them. Also, at this price range, you're probably not going to get a complete groupset. A Tiagra set will probably be Tiagra shifters and derailleurs, but they'll probably substitute a crank, cassette, and brakes for a house brand to hit price points. All of the major brands do this for anything under Shimano 105 (or SRAM or Campy equivalent).
The big thing to pay attention to is the fit of the bike. Do you feel too cramped or too stretched out when riding the bike compared to some of the other bikes?

Geometry is the next thing you should be looking at. It will affect the fit for you. Most road bikes come in 3 basic geometries: Endurance, Race, Aero. That is going from least aggressive geometry to most aggressive geometry. Every brand is a little different, and a lot of the brands are not going to have aero in their intro bike line. Since every brand is a little different in their geometries, that is why you should road test as many different brands as possible.

The next thing would be the material of the bike and the fork. At $900, you'll probably be looking at Aluminum alloy frames, but some bikes may have a carbon fork, while others have an aluminum alloy fork. If two bikes are similar, the one with the carbon fork will probably have a little bit smoother ride. So the smoothness of the ride may be another thing to look at regarding this. Also, try to road test all the bikes at a similar air pressure (at least for the same size tires).

The last thing you should look at is the components on the bike. Here's a Shimano Wiki page, that helps explain their groupsets. For your budget, here's what you should be considering:

105 (11-spd) >> Tiagra (10-spd) >> Sora (9-spd) >> Claris (8-spd) >> Tourney (7-spd) (or some number like A030 or A070).

If you can get a new 105 bike for your budget, that bike should be near the top of your list if it fits you. Next would be Tiagra, then Sora, then Claris. That's the top line groups for your budget, down to the lowest that you should consider. And really, you'll probably be looking at 105, Tiagra, and Sora in your budget range. (There are these mythical things called Ultegra and Dura-Ace, but they're going to be outside of your budget, except on used bikes.)

I bought a Fuji Sportif 1.3c - 2014 in April for $800 from Performance (Cary, NC). It had mostly the Tiagra group, but some components were substituted. But on all the bikes that I looked at, they tended to substitute cranks, cassettes, and brakes. Mine had disc brakes. (This is the bike what Willbird was talking about.) I had 3 bikes in my top group after road testing, a Trek, a Specialized, and a Fuji Sportif. I did not actually get to road test the 1.3c, but since the frame and fork were the same on it as on several different Sportif models (the difference was the groupset and the wheels). But the one that I did road test told me enough that I felt confident ordering the same basic model that I road tested, but with a different group set. The Sportif offered the best bang for the buck, so that is why I got it out of the 3 in the top group.

But is still comes down to road testing as many different brands as possible at a few different LBSs. One may practically scream for you to buy it, especially compared to the others. If so, but that one. If there are several in your top group that fit you equally as well, figure out if one is more likely to make you want to ride, due to color, group, LBS, etc. The key is to get a bike that fits and gets you excited about riding it.

Good Luck!

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