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Old 08-24-15, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBlockUSP
Of course you name computer companies. Boy, there's shocker that computer parts are made in Asia.

The best guns are made in Germany, the best watches are made in Switzerland, the best cars are made in Germany, the best motorcycles are made in Germany.

I'm sure that the Taiwanese bikes are fine, but I would definitely rather see "Made in Germany" than "Made in Taiwan." I'm not buying sneakers, I'm buying a road bike. We wonder why our country is in so much debt. Maybe if we didn't employ India and Asia we would be doing better. Just a bunch of old, fat, cheap pieces of **** that live for profit margins. Instead of making $800/bike, make $600/bike and employ ****ing Americans. Naw, that would never happen though. Then they could only afford a Ferrari 458 Italia and not the Aventador that they really want. This country is so ass backwards it's sickening. I miss the 70s when common sense was more important than 10% more money. This country ceased to be the United States by the early 90s. Now it's a "melting pot" of obesity and greed.
Ummm. Okay. This post doesn't make a whole lot of economic sense, but I guess it covers the xenophobic bases.

You can buy a bike made somewhere other than Asia, but you better up your budget.
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I'm sure that the Taiwanese bikes are fine, but I would definitely rather see "Made in Germany" than "Made in Taiwan."
For one reason or another, Germany never developed much of a road bike industry, at least by judging what made it over to the states. In the '80s, Italian bicycles were the bee's knees - Bianchi, Basso, Colnago, Pinarello, Masi, Ciocc, etc. Unfortunately most of those brands have most frames made in China now.

Japanese road bikes were widely available in the '70s and '80s, but a lot of them were lowend. If you go shopping for vintage Japanese roadies, make sure you get one made from nice tubing : Champion #1 or #2 , for instance.

If you want a vintage bike with an American frame, most Treks and Cannondales were American made well into the '90s.

If you want a new American made road bike, check out a Gunnar. $1200 for frame and fork.

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Originally Posted by BigBlockUSP
I am an amateur, but you guys should be happy to hear an outsiders fresh perspective.
I think you are making an unwarranted assumption. Folks were willing to provide advice on a subject about which you know nothing. I don't think you should assume they are interested in your opinions on the subject, about which you still know nothing. When I lived in Florida, there was the saying "We don't care how you did it back in Minnesota."
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Ummm. Okay. This post doesn't make a whole lot of economic sense, but I guess it covers the xenophobic bases.

You can buy a bike made somewhere other than Asia, but you better up your budget.
I'm not xenophobic, I'm just tired of being the minority in my own country.
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Originally Posted by BigBlockUSP
Of course you name computer companies. Boy, there's shocker that computer parts are made in Asia.

The best guns are made in Germany, the best watches are made in Switzerland, the best cars are made in Germany, the best motorcycles are made in Germany.

I'm sure that the Taiwanese bikes are fine, but I would definitely rather see "Made in Germany" than "Made in Taiwan."
Why? Bikes aren't cars or motorcycles. The best ones are, for the most part, made in Taiwan.

I'm not buying sneakers, I'm buying a road bike. We wonder why our country is in so much debt. Maybe if we didn't employ India and Asia we would be doing better. Just a bunch of old, fat, cheap pieces of **** that live for profit margins. Instead of making $800/bike, make $600/bike and employ ****ing Americans. Naw, that would never happen though. Then they could only afford a Ferrari 458 Italia and not the Aventador that they really want. This country is so ass backwards it's sickening. I miss the 70s when common sense was more important than 10% more money. This country ceased to be the United States by the early 90s. Now it's a "melting pot" of obesity and greed.
Not too many companies in the cycling industry with billionaire CEOs.
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But you see how you named more than one? "Acer, Asus, Garmin, ..." In the bike world it's Shimano, Shimano, Shimano, Shimano, Shimano, SRAM. Where I come from that is holding an entire market, which means they can just make up their own prices basically. If you want a groupset, you will pay whatever Shimano wants you to. That should be illegal. I bet the $1,000 Ultegra groupset doesn't cost more than $200 to make.

I am an amateur, but you guys should be happy to hear an outsiders fresh perspective. My perspective is that this hobby is ****ed up and rigged to cost much more than it should. I can buy a nice motorcycle that can do 180mph for 5 grand, with an engine, turn signals, a transmission, etc. Something is very wrong with a bicycle costing the same amount. It better be made by NASA out of diamonds to cost the same as a motorcycle.
Your perspective is not fresh.
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I'm not xenophobic, I'm just tired of being the minority in my own country.
Consider how the actual minorities feel.
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Originally Posted by BigBlockUSP
I'm sure that the Taiwanese bikes are fine, but I would definitely rather see "Made in Germany" than "Made in Taiwan." I'm not buying sneakers, I'm buying a road bike. We wonder why our country is in so much debt. Maybe if we didn't employ India and Asia we would be doing better. Just a bunch of old, fat, cheap pieces of **** that live for profit margins. Instead of making $800/bike, make $600/bike and employ ****ing Americans. Naw, that would never happen though. Then they could only afford a Ferrari 458 Italia and not the Aventador that they really want. This country is so ass backwards it's sickening. I miss the 70s when common sense was more important than 10% more money. This country ceased to be the United States by the early 90s. Now it's a "melting pot" of obesity and greed.
Funny diatribe from someone who just bought a pos bike from Walmart for the sole reason that it's cheap. You're part of the problem that you're complaining about. You want an American made bike? Get one. Try a Litespeed or a Lynskey for starters. But you won't because they're outside of your budget. So you'll get a bike made somewhere else & keep complaining.

p.s. you can even get a bike with SRAM or Campy if you believe Shimano is ripping you off. See how I just named 3 companies making drivetrains for bikes? That should prevent them from just making up their own prices (basically).
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Consider how the actual minorities feel.
They feel ecstatic. Not only do they cross the border illegally penalty free, they get food stamps, welfare, free health insurance, a drivers license, etc. We treat them better than our own people. If a white guy goes to the government and says I need help, they tell him to sod off. If an illegal immigrant asks for help we give them free money and a hug. Our intelligent country welcomes them with open arms and let them steal our jobs and our tax money. It's insanity. Other countries are smart enough to not let non natives steal their resources.
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Originally Posted by BigBlockUSP
They feel ecstatic. Not only do they cross the border illegally penalty free, they get food stamps, welfare, free health insurance, a drivers license, etc. We treat them better than our own people. If a white guy goes to the government and says I need help, they tell him to sod off. If an illegal immigrant asks for help we give them free money and a hug. Our intelligent country welcomes them with open arms and let them steal our jobs and our tax money. It's insanity. Other countries are smart enough to not let non natives steal their resources.
So, do we want to keep this conversation on-topic regarding an entry-level bike or should we move this to P&R?
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Originally Posted by BigBlockUSP
They feel ecstatic. Not only do they cross the border illegally penalty free, they get food stamps, welfare, free health insurance, a drivers license, etc. We treat them better than our own people. If a white guy goes to the government and says I need help, they tell him to sod off. If an illegal immigrant asks for help we give them free money and a hug. Our intelligent country welcomes them with open arms and let them steal our jobs and our tax money. It's insanity. Other countries are smart enough to not let non natives steal their resources.
1) The vast majority of minorities are not illegal immigrants.
2) The overwhelming majority of government expenditures are on middle class entitlements.

But don't let that get in the way of your diatribes.
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Does a Denali have enough room to slap one of these bad boys on it?

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So, no more about the bike? Cool.

Closed.
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