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Since when did road cycling get overrun by wusses?

Old 08-25-15, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by 69chevy View Post
My response was a lighthearted attempt to battle flawed logic with flawed logic.

The padding in your shorts has no bearing on how tough you are. It also doesnt make you a wuss.

A man in spandex calling man in padded spandex a wuss is just funny to me.
Sorry, I didn't see the sarcasm font. ; )
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The statistic & quote that forms the basis of this thread is stupid. The poster actually said that 50% of comfort comes from the saddle & 50% from a pair of properly fitting riding shorts. No mention of padding at all. And from this the OP compares riding today with his "memories" and declares that cyclists of today are wusses. On that basis alone one could start a thread asking when did road cycling get overrun with idiots?

There's little doubt that comfort on the saddle comes from a) the saddle as well as b) properly fitted shorts. Of course there's room to argue the %'s given but nowhere does this statement necessarily mean that cyclists today are more comfortable than those of the past. I'm sure in the past comfort also came from the saddle & shorts. What a stupid thread... I'll guarantee you that the OP wears properly fitted shorts and is more comfortable as a result.. so comfortable that it's absolutely necessary that he washes said shorts after every ride.
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Old 08-25-15, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by 69chevy View Post
Since when were grown men riding bicycles in spandex considered "tough".

I definately don't feel like I project the tough guy image as I pedal down the shoulder.

If my insecurity level was such that I felt the need to show how tough I was, I would take up mma fighting.
MMA fighting on unicycles would be mucho macho!!
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Old 08-25-15, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by DaveWC View Post
The statistic & quote that forms the basis of this thread is stupid. The poster actually said that 50% of comfort comes from the saddle & 50% from a pair of properly fitting riding shorts
If your comfort level is below 100%, the remaining shortage of comfort can be made up with Southern Comfort.
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If your comfort level is below 100%, the remaining shortage of comfort can be made up with Southern Comfort.
Is this a chamois creme?
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Old 08-25-15, 12:05 PM
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I just got back into riding after more than 25 years. My first few rides, the seat was too far back and slightly too high and I was just wearing ordinary slippery fabric shorts. The inside of my thighs up by the seat ached after my first couple of rides like that (about 4 miles each). I adjusted the seat following some Youtube video guidelines, bought a pair of padded shorts and life is now bearable. The padded shorts are not so important with the seat properly adjusted, but they still help (took a short 2 mile ride towards dusk last night with regular shorts on again, I prefer the padding). So I guess I'm a wuss.
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If you read the op carefully, you should see that there was not assignment of wuss status to those who wear cycling shorts. It was a characterization of those that think modern, techno-padded cycling shorts are intrinsic to comfort on the bike. How did we ever do with just the simplest kind?
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Originally Posted by RPK79 View Post
Is this a chamois creme?
If you want it to be. Let us know how that works out.

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What does "properly fitting" bike shorts mean? I mean, I take a medium, and when I buy a pair of medium shorts/bibs, aren't they "properly fitting"? Or does the OP have custom shorts made for him?
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Originally Posted by DaveWC View Post
The statistic & quote that forms the basis of this thread is stupid. The poster actually said that 50% of comfort comes from the saddle & 50% from a pair of properly fitting riding shorts. No mention of padding at all. And from this the OP compares riding today with his "memories" and declares that cyclists of today are wusses. On that basis alone one could start a thread asking when did road cycling get overrun with idiots?

There's little doubt that comfort on the saddle comes from a) the saddle as well as b) properly fitted shorts. Of course there's room to argue the %'s given but nowhere does this statement necessarily mean that cyclists today are more comfortable than those of the past. I'm sure in the past comfort also came from the saddle & shorts. What a stupid thread... I'll guarantee you that the OP wears properly fitted shorts and is more comfortable as a result.. so comfortable that it's absolutely necessary that he washes said shorts after every ride.
I think you need to make an appointment to have your humor sensors checked.
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"86% of all online statistics are made up" - James Madison
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Now that you mention it, maybe toxic thread syndrome is my problem!
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Old 08-25-15, 12:16 PM
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Repeat after me: paaarooody thread. That's it, parody thread. "By George, I think she's got it."
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Originally Posted by mprelaw View Post
What does "properly fitting" bike shorts mean? I mean, I take a medium, and when I buy a pair of medium shorts/bibs, aren't they "properly fitting"? Or does the OP have custom shorts made for him?
I always take mine into the tailor to be properly fitted.
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Repeat after me: paaarooody thread. That's it, parody thread. "By George, I think she's got it."
I prefer "tribute thread" over "parody thread."

Seems more civilized, don't you think?? Or just wussy??
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I prefer "tribute thread" over "parody thread."

Seems more civilized, don't you think?? Or just wussy??
I pay tribute to no one...except Mrs. rpen.
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Originally Posted by RPK79 View Post
I always take mine into the tailor to be properly fitted.
"Which way do you dress?"

Never mind, I don't really want to know.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker View Post
I pay tribute to no one...except Mrs. rpen.
I am not surprised to hear this.

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If I remember correctly the OP sold a ti bike awhile back because it rode too rough
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If I remember correctly the OP sold a ti bike awhile back because it rode too rough
Yes, and I don't recall you expressing interest in buying it.

Wait, I just got it. Were you suggesting I could have just bought some Assos or Rapha shorts and happily kept the bike? OMG, that would have been awesome. I wish you would have said something then.
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Yes, and I don't recall you expressing interest in buying it.

Wait, I just got it. Were you suggesting I could have just bought some Assos or Rapha shorts and happily kept the bike? OMG, that would have been awesome. I wish you would have said something then.
Relax, turbo haha. Just pointing out you sold a ti bike because it rode too rough. Now of course I'm not saying that was wussy, no harm man
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Relax, turbo haha. Just pointing out you sold a ti bike because it rode too rough. Now of course I'm not saying that was wussy, no harm man
Can you think of a better reason to sell a Ti bike?
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker View Post
If you read the op carefully, you should see that there was not assignment of wuss status to those who wear cycling shorts. It was a characterization of those that think modern, techno-padded cycling shorts are intrinsic to comfort on the bike. How did we ever do with just the simplest kind?
Yes, but to assign wussy boy status to modern techno-padded spandex leads one to believe that non-padded spandex shorts are for tough guys.

From cyberland, picturing a man in spandex telling another man he's wearing wussy spandex is more entertainment than the thread itself.
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I don't need no stinkin' leather shorts...

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