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rpenmanparker 08-25-15 09:20 AM

Since when did road cycling get overrun by wusses?
 
Please discuss...and, oh yeah, you kids get off my lawn before I turn the hose on ya'.

CNC2204 08-25-15 09:25 AM

I saw an older guy road riding in jeans a while back.

Me and the twins could never do that.

silversx80 08-25-15 09:27 AM

If you were a real non-wuss, you'd see how long you could go without washing your kit before toxic shock kicked in. :p

DaveWC 08-25-15 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by rpenmanparker (Post 18107849)
In fact I don't think modern shorts contribute diddly-squat more to comfort than the old fashioned ones did.

Do you wear properly fitted cycling shorts?

68venable 08-25-15 09:29 AM

Are you talking about road cyclists or forum cyclists? I hear the most nonsense online and generally like to think that 90% of it is said just to get someone worked up for entertainment purposes.

DaveWC 08-25-15 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by silversx80 (Post 18107881)
If you were a real non-wuss, you'd see how long you could go without washing your kit before toxic shock kicked in. :p

Agreed. Here is a sport where people worry incessantly apparently about wearing the same pair of shorts in one day, where they deem it necessary to shave their legs, where they debate which chamois cream is the best... and the reason they're deemed wusses is because they think that cycling shorts add to the comfort of their ride? Laughable.

rjones28 08-25-15 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by rpenmanparker (Post 18107849)
Padded shorts contribute 50% to the comfort of a cycling experience? Really? So everybody who used to ride on unpadded genuine chamois was only half as comfortable as they could have been if modern shorts had been available...and the most expensive ones, of course?

That's not how I remember it. In fact I don't think modern shorts contribute diddly-squat more to comfort than the old fashioned ones did.

Please discuss...and, oh yeah, you kids get off my lawn before I turn the hose on ya'.

I'll commute up to 10 miles in a cotton t-shirt, canvas work pants, and boxers on a road saddle.

2manybikes 08-25-15 09:34 AM

Real men use granite saddles.



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rjones28 08-25-15 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by silversx80 (Post 18107881)
If you were a real non-wuss, you'd see how long you could go without washing your kit before toxic shock kicked in. :p

Just turn the bibs inside out and air dry in the sunshine. Good all summer. ;)

rjones28 08-25-15 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by 2manybikes (Post 18107908)

werd

rpenmanparker 08-25-15 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by silversx80 (Post 18107881)
If you were a real non-wuss, you'd see how long you could go without washing your kit before toxic shock kicked in. :p

Now that you mention it, maybe toxic shock syndrome is my problem!

rpenmanparker 08-25-15 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by rjones28 (Post 18107906)
I'll commute up to 10 miles in a cotton t-shirt, canvas work pants, and boxers on a road saddle.

Yaaah. That's what I'm talkin' about.

Dave Cutter 08-25-15 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by rpenmanparker (Post 18107849)
Padded shorts contribute 50% to the comfort of a cycling experience? .....

Blatant stats are easily refuted and/or debated. Maybe if you posted that: "Padded shorts contribute 50% to the comfort of a cycling experience... 40% of the time".
As I don't think I'd even notice a difference between chamois shorts or not on rides less than 20-25 miles.

In reality... layers of fine goat skins (chamois), a flimsy sponge or foam pad, or a thick and anatomically designed cushy silicone padding.... makes little or no difference. They all stick to the skin and absorb any movement between the saddle and the cyclist... preventing blisters. Any cushy comfort that comes along with the chamois is an after-thought.

Cyclosaurus 08-25-15 09:41 AM

I have a couple of padded shorts but rarely wear them. I've found that for the biggest comfort factor is having the right saddle adjusted to the right spot. I have 2 Brooks (B-17 and C-17) and 2 Selle Anatomica saddles and once I got them dialed in on their respective bikes, I don't have any discomfort even on long rides in regular clothes. Comfort is such a personal thing that I wouldn't discourage anyone from wearing padded shorts or call them a wuss for it, but as a general rule I would recommend first getting the most comfortable (for their butt) saddle fitted as perfectly as possible, then worrying about whether you need padded shorts only at that point.

69chevy 08-25-15 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by rpenmanparker (Post 18107849)
Padded shorts contribute 50% to the comfort of a cycling experience? Really? So everybody who used to ride on unpadded genuine chamois was only half as comfortable as they could have been if modern shorts had been available...and the most expensive ones, of course?

That's not how I remember it. In fact I don't think modern shorts contribute diddly-squat more to comfort than the old fashioned ones did.

Please discuss...and, oh yeah, you kids get off my lawn before I turn the hose on ya'.

Since when were grown men riding bicycles in spandex considered "tough".

I definately don't feel like I project the tough guy image as I pedal down the shoulder.

If my insecurity level was such that I felt the need to show how tough I was, I would take up mma fighting.

Dave Cutter 08-25-15 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by Cyclosaurus (Post 18107951)
..... I've found that for the biggest comfort factor is having the right saddle adjusted to the right spot.....

I agree with what you posted.... and I'll go one step further than that. I am sure 50% of my comfort comes from a proper cycling position. I think most of us can spot an experienced cyclist approaching from a long ways off. Experienced cyclist are often perched on the bicycle. Their saddles aren't designed for the cyclist to plop their weight fully on the saddle.

Whereas new cyclists tend to sit on the bicycle saddle (or seat). Using the "sitting position" is what attracts many cyclist towards the ever increasing levels of padding.

Following the example of Cyclosaurus (and others) is the less intuitive but correct way to go.

CarbonPothole 08-25-15 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by rpenmanparker (Post 18107849)
Padded shorts contribute 50% to the comfort of a cycling experience? Really? So everybody who used to ride on unpadded genuine chamois was only half as comfortable as they could have been if modern shorts had been available...and the most expensive ones, of course?

That's not how I remember it. In fact I don't think modern shorts contribute diddly-squat more to comfort than the old fashioned ones did.

Please discuss...and, oh yeah, you kids get off my lawn before I turn the hose on ya'.

I said properly FITTING, not 4" of PADDING. If 0 padding and properly fitting bibs or shorts fit, then have fun. If padded shorts or bibs that properly fit work for ya, then have fun. If they don't fit, you won't have fun. At all. Comprehension help.

Hypno Toad 08-25-15 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by rpenmanparker (Post 18107849)
That's not how I remember it. In fact I don't think modern shorts contribute diddly-squat more to comfort than the old fashioned ones did.

"... remember it" HA! I have a classic pair of genuine chamois short, they are ~20 years old and I still wear them as liners under knickers. For century rides, I do go with modern padded shorts, that's partly because the old ones are too thin to wear alone and partly 'cause modern shorts are more comfortable.

RPK79 08-25-15 11:24 AM

"86% of all online statistics are made up" - James Madison

Hypno Toad 08-25-15 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by 69chevy (Post 18107952)
Since when were grown men riding bicycles in spandex considered "tough".

I definately don't feel like I project the tough guy image as I pedal down the shoulder.

If my insecurity level was such that I felt the need to show how tough I was, I would take up mma fighting.

Spandex doesn't make you tougher, but you are no less tough for it either. Reference 2011 TdF stage 9 Johnny Hoogerland - pushed off the road into barbed wire fence, finished stage. That's tough in spandex (which got shredded off him and he needed new shorts to continue riding).

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RPK79 08-25-15 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by Hypno Toad (Post 18108340)
Spandex doesn't make you tougher, but you are no less tough for it either.

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rjones28 08-25-15 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by RPK79 (Post 18108318)
"86% of all online statistics are made up" - James Madison

That guy should run for president.

#madison2016

69chevy 08-25-15 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by Hypno Toad (Post 18108340)
Spandex doesn't make you tougher, but you are no less tough for it either. Reference 2011 TdF stage 9 Johnny Hoogerland - pushed off the road into barbed wire fence, finished stage. That's tough in spandex (which got shredded off him and he needed new shorts to continue riding).

My response was a lighthearted attempt to battle flawed logic with flawed logic.

The padding in your shorts has no bearing on how tough you are. It also doesnt make you a wuss.

A man in spandex calling man in padded spandex a wuss is just funny to me.

rmfnla 08-25-15 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by rjones28 (Post 18107906)
I'll commute up to 10 miles in a cotton t-shirt, canvas work pants, and boxers on a road saddle.

Exactly what I wear!

Except my saddle is a Brooks Flyer; so comfy I haven't felt the need for padding...

Doctor Morbius 08-25-15 11:48 AM

I must be a double wuss as in the past I've worn 2 pair of cycling shorts for long rides. :(


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