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Does the CAAD9 have a harsh ride?

Old 08-31-15, 10:00 PM
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Does the CAAD9 have a harsh ride?

Just curious. I have been riding my CAAD9 since 2010 and comfortable (in any sense of the word) is not how I would describe it. But is it harsh? And how does stiffness compare to carbon bikes of the time?
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Old 08-31-15, 10:21 PM
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A hydroformed alloy frame with a carbon fork has a compliant ride.

Alloy is lighter than steel and can be fine-tuned for desired riding characteristics.

You find the ride of your CAAD comfortable and most people would agree its far from harsh.
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Old 08-31-15, 10:26 PM
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I had a caad9 and found it to be perfectly comfortable for a bike with aggressive race geometry
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I had one for awhile. It seemed fine to me. I raced and trained on it. I also had a Cannondale System Six at the time, and I could tell little difference between them Tire pressure will have a greater impact on ride quality than frame material.
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Old 09-01-15, 06:29 AM
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If you buy a carbon bike expecting it to be a magical carpet ride and a night and day difference you'll be greatly disappointed.
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How much "compliance" improvement from CAAD 9 to CAAD 10 to CAAD 12?
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Old 09-01-15, 10:34 AM
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Tire pressure and/or wider rims/tires can make a huge difference. I have a CAAD10 - and yes it's just a little less forgiving compared to the steel and carbon bikes I've also owned. But the difference is quite small. Decent carbon should be as stiff but slightly more comfortable. (IME) Steel is slightly more comfortable as well but gives up some stiffness/responsiveness. Those are huge generalizations...but mostly hold when other things are equal.
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Old 09-01-15, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Lazyass View Post
If you buy a carbon bike expecting it to be a magical carpet ride and a night and day difference you'll be greatly disappointed.
I wouldn't say night and day difference but I did notice a significant difference when I moved to a supersix evo from a caad10.
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Old 09-01-15, 11:08 AM
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I ride a CAAD9 and while it's certainly no luxury barge, I don't find it harsh at all - and I'm a 45-year old Clydesdale. It's stiff and begs to be ridden faster than I'm capable of, but aside from ending up on really rough chip and seal, I find it pretty comfortable.
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No.
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I find my speedster extremely harsh. (Hydroformed with carbon seatpost and fork). With all the rave reviews on how compliant some carbon bikes are, was hoping for a bit of a reprieve with a new purchase.

How does Hydroformed make alloy more compliant? I thought that was simply a manufacturing process to make metal into a certain shape.
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Old 09-01-15, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by NormanF View Post
A hydroformed alloy frame with a carbon fork has a compliant ride.
I respectfully disagree.

I guess it depends on where you ride. Most don't have to endure what I do. If you ride exclusively on smoothly paved city streets, then anything will be fine. If you happen to ride on terrible, broken up Texas country chip seal "roads", then you tend to get a little more selective.
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Originally Posted by inspclouseau View Post
I find my speedster extremely harsh. (Hydroformed with carbon seatpost and fork). With all the rave reviews on how compliant some carbon bikes are, was hoping for a bit of a reprieve with a new purchase.

How does Hydroformed make alloy more compliant? I thought that was simply a manufacturing process to make metal into a certain shape.
The shape, probably. The shape lets them give the frame the stiffness and compliance they want.
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Old 09-01-15, 08:28 PM
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Mine rides like a beer can compared to my carbon bike. I think the ride comfort totally sucks. It's stiff though, so it's a good performer for shortish climbing rides, which is what I use it for. But I'd not want to do even a century on it.
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Old 09-01-15, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Jarrett2 View Post
I respectfully disagree.

I guess it depends on where you ride. Most don't have to endure what I do. If you ride exclusively on smoothly paved city streets, then anything will be fine. If you happen to ride on terrible, broken up Texas country chip seal "roads", then you tend to get a little more selective.
^^^

This. Buzzy chip seal and broken pavement is where the steel and carbon frames shine.
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Old 09-02-15, 03:09 AM
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I've ridden top frames most of m life. I have a couple of pro level carbon frames, and in there is a CAAD9. I prefer the 9's ride.
Oh, and i like that "made in the USA" decal as well.

I can ride any of them, but find the 9 to be a bit more comfortable.
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Old 09-02-15, 05:49 AM
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I had a Trek 5900 and once I got the CAAD9 I sold the Trek. I didn't really notice any difference in ride comfort (both are race bikes). I did notice the way the CAAD9 handled. It just works for me. The slight differences in geometry made for quicker handling and a more intuitive feel for me. I just enjoy riding it more than I did the carbon Trek. I think the days of overly stiff and uncomfortable aluminum bikes are over. High end aluminum bikes are getting more expensive and low end carbon is getting cheaper.
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The bi-monthly aluminum debate. Hydroformed alu does ride very nice, comparable to the steel and carbon bikes I've owned and ridden on the chipseal roads from Texas to NC and places near and far. And aluminum can in fact be even more durable than steel and titanium. I personally would like to see someone develop a hydroformed alloy fork. If I could get rid of every gram of carbon on my bike I would.
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Originally Posted by Lazyass View Post
The bi-monthly aluminum debate. Hydroformed alu does ride very nice, comparable to the steel and carbon bikes I've owned and ridden on the chipseal roads from Texas to NC and places near and far. And aluminum can in fact be even more durable than steel and titanium. I personally would like to see someone develop a hydroformed alloy fork. If I could get rid of every gram of carbon on my bike I would.
So is there a reason hydroformed forks don't exist? Seems if it is any bit more compliant thats what manufacturers would use instead of carbon, no?
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So is there a reason hydroformed forks don't exist? Seems if it is any bit more compliant thats what manufacturers would use instead of carbon, no?
I didn't say it would be MORE complaint. But I'm sure aluminum forks wouldn't be as big a selling point as carbon is. It's all about money.
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I did the GOBA 2015 316 miles in 5 days of riding on my caad 9 2010 with no problems and last year I did the 100 mile seagull century and felt the best ever in the last 20 miles than previous years with a stiff carbon bike....I used to use the caad 9 for just short fast rides under 50 but found I could use it for longer rides
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Good timing as I also have a CAAD9 and recently started road riding again. Good to hear peoples opinions. I intend to try out some CF Endurance bikes to see if I should upgrade. Just for infor I'm 55 , med - fast (when in shape) rec rider.
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Originally Posted by baribari View Post
Just curious. I have been riding my CAAD9 since 2010 and comfortable (in any sense of the word) is not how I would describe it. But is it harsh? And how does stiffness compare to carbon bikes of the time?
Questions:

1. What is your tire pressure f/r?
2. What is your weight?
3. What is the bike/accessories weight?
4. What size tires?

It's very possible that your ride is so rough because you have the tires over-inflated for what you need. If they're rock-hard, it's probably too much psi.

GH
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I loved my 2009 CAAD9.....until I rode a 2007 Cannondale System Six. The CAAD9 lost all its parts to the uber-stiff, climbing missile almost overnight.
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