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Two new road tubeless products that caught my attention

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Two new road tubeless products that caught my attention

This post is aimed at others that actually ride tubeless or might have interest in these products, not the haters. One product is the new Vittoria Corsa Speed (Open TLR) tire which is their first tubeless offering and weighs only 205 grams using their new Graphene compound that makes for a super light casing. Next is Zipps new Course 30 wheels, they come in four models and include a couple firsts for Zipp like their first road tubeless offering and an aluminum tubular model. The wheels weigh a bit more than I'd like to see (rim brake clincher 1570g) but the 25mm rim width (21mm inside) is probably the main contributor to the heft of the wheel and not too far off from the Hed Ardennes as far as weight is concerned with a comparable wheelset. I'd bet the new Zipp wheel combined with Vittoria's new lightweight tubeless tire would make for a nice riding combo? Here's some links;

Zipp - Speed Weaponry | Wheels | 30 Course Rim-brake Clincher

Corsa Speed (Open TLR) - Vittoria.com
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OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!! I want-- no, need!-- the Vittoria OC Speed!!!

Did you read the press release, about how the graphene allows the rubber to harden or soften depending on load at the road surface? Kinda far out!

I was waiting for the Schwalbe Pro One, but these just moved to the top of the list, and I'm calling Transition Rack this morning to see when I can get a pair!

Man, with rubber like this hitting the tubeless market, I reckon tubeless is ready to blow up.

The Zipps are less interesting for my type of riding, but gravel riders should be delighted. 25mm outer, 21mm inner...
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I'll definitely keep my eye on the Vitorria tire. I'm sure they should be readily available by the time I need a new set. I'm wondering if they are rated at 23, but will be more like 25's on the now more common wide rims. They look really good.
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Dealer says that the Corsa Speed is not available until next month, and pricing not yet set, so I gotta wait. Drats.
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Mentioned it on another thread but yes, I am really looking forward to the new range of Vittoria tires. The tubeless one looks excellent, as does the 28mm Corsa clincher. I just hope the price is at least semi-reasonable.
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For Vittoria tires the British websites (eg wiggle, merlin) typically have good prices.

A 205g tubeless is exceptional. Most 23-25mm tubeless are close to 300g.
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You have to wonder whether the same lightening techniques as in the new Vittoria tubeless tire will be applied to standard tubed clinchers thereby maintaining the weight advantage over tubeless plus sealant. Oh, never mind. You guys don't care about that. My bad. Carry on.
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You have to wonder whether the same lightening techniques as in the new Vittoria tubeless tire will be applied to standard tubed clinchers thereby maintaining the weight advantage over tubeless plus sealant. Oh, never mind. You guys don't care about that. My bad. Carry on.

It's funny how you completely fail to make apples to apples comparisons.

Show me a standard clincher with the same flat resiliency as a tubeless system and it'll be 500 grams and ride like petrified cur manure.

Advantage goes to the rider not by the side of the road changing a tube.
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Nice, but don't trying saying it 10x fast.

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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
You have to wonder whether the same lightening techniques as in the new Vittoria tubeless tire will be applied to standard tubed clinchers thereby maintaining the weight advantage over tubeless plus sealant. Oh, never mind. You guys don't care about that. My bad. Carry on.
They are also offering a new clincher made with graphene. The specs suggest it will be heavier than the tubeless one though, but they claim excellent puncture resistance.
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If the tires come in anywhere near what their claims are, these tires will be better than good. I can't wait, finally something may be getting closer to the tub performance in a tubeless package.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
You have to wonder whether the same lightening techniques as in the new Vittoria tubeless tire will be applied to standard tubed clinchers thereby maintaining the weight advantage over tubeless plus sealant. Oh, never mind. You guys don't care about that. My bad. Carry on.
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This post is aimed at others that actually ride tubeless or might have interest in these products, not the haters.
Yeah, we don't need to have this conversation here. If you want to gripe about tubeless, you can start your own thread. Meanwhile, we'll all enjoy the enhanced ride quality and puncture protection.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
You have to wonder whether the same lightening techniques as in the new Vittoria tubeless tire will be applied to standard tubed clinchers thereby maintaining the weight advantage over tubeless plus sealant. Oh, never mind. You guys don't care about that. My bad. Carry on.
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