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Old 09-10-15, 01:33 PM
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ASPLODE! ASPLODE! ASPLODE! Dammit, it's like you don't even pay attention.
My step kids say desplode and desplosion. I don't know where my head was at...
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Originally Posted by 69chevy View Post
It's really only a problem with older Trek forks. This guy was just riding along and SNAP. I looked the whole picture over and see no reason why the fork would fail....
That picture has been the subject of debate as to authenticity for years. It would appear that the forks would have broken the opposite direction had the squirrel jammed in the forks.
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What about disc brakes?
Duh. Disc brakes stop pinch flats far better than rim brakes.
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It was a joke, but the breaks in the fork are where they should be if the wheel locked and the rider went over the bars.
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh View Post
That picture has been the subject of debate as to authenticity for years. It would appear that the forks would have broken the opposite direction had the squirrel jammed in the forks.
So what is the assumption here? The photographer killed a squirrel and placed it there for a "funny" photo?
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Originally Posted by RPK79 View Post
I'm currently riding on a carbon fork made in 2003 with 700x23 clinchers. How long do I have before I hit a small bump in the road, pinch flat, and sheer my fork in half? I know I'm just living on borrowed time as it is. I'm worried I should hang up the ol' Fuji for wall art.
Switch to 25mm tires and keep at 85psi. You will roll so fast it wont matter.
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Originally Posted by RPK79 View Post
So what is the assumption here? The photographer killed a squirrel and placed it there for a "funny" photo?
its not even clear that its not a stuffed squirrel. There doesn't appear to be any damage to the squirrel, i.e. blood and guts popping out.

It was originally posted a number of years when a good number of people actually thought carbon would assplode.

If you think about it, the force on the fork would not have been any higher than the force imposed by fully locking the front brake. Hence the skepticism that it may have been staged.

The damage to the fork is more consistent with running the front wheel into a fixed object.
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh View Post
its not even clear that its not a stuffed squirrel. There doesn't appear to be any damage to the squirrel, i.e. blood and guts popping out.

It was originally posted a number of years when a good number of people actually thought carbon would assplode.

If you think about it, the force on the fork would not have been any higher than the force imposed by fully locking the front brake. Hence the skepticism that it may have been staged.

The damage to the fork is more consistent with running the front wheel into a fixed object.
I picture the wheel locking and the rider doing an "endo".

With the forward momentum of the rider, plus the weight of the rider and bike, all pushing downward on the fork as it rotates around a locked wheel.

That is exactly what I'd expect to see. Much like the video I posted, but not as dramatic.
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Old 09-10-15, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 69chevy View Post
I picture the wheel locking and the rider doing an "endo".

With the forward momentum of the rider, plus the weight of the rider and bike, all pushing downward on the fork as it rotates around a locked wheel.

That is exactly what I'd expect to see. Much like the video I posted, but not as dramatic.
I can see the mechanics of that working. Plus, the way the squirrel is sorta folded up it looks like it got caught on the spokes at the bottom of the wheel's rotation, pulled back up and around, and folded around that pair of spokes when hitting the fork, causing the wheel to lock. I guess that wouldn't necessarily make the squirrel go pop, but the weight shift and endo could break the fork with the rider's weight. Maybe the rider also suddenly swerved into a curb at the moment the wheel locked because of the shock?

Didn't think I'd spend a couple minutes of my day thinking about the dynamics of a squirrel getting sucked up into a rotating wheel, but there you go.
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Old 09-10-15, 03:23 PM
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I would strongly advise you to drill stress relief holes in the fork(don't do this). If a crack forms the holes will prevent them from spreading all the way across the fork.
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Originally Posted by bt View Post
don't hang it above your chair or it could fall down and maim you.
Quite common in fact. Last year two guys retired their old carbon frames, hug them up over the living room couch as an ol' faithful keepsake, only to die in their sleep while dozing on the couch...each frame coming down and both being impaled by the fork.
Live by the fork, get forked by it...has become a new popular mantra.
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This squirrel thing is derailing my serious thread...
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Old 09-10-15, 08:27 PM
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Sorry. To get things back on track, yes you are living on borrowed time. We all are. Instead of living we are all technically dying slowly.
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This squirrel thing is derailing my serious thread...
Are you still here?
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Originally Posted by RPK79 View Post
I'm currently riding on a carbon fork made in 2003 with 700x23 clinchers. How long do I have before I hit a small bump in the road, pinch flat, and sheer my fork in half? I know I'm just living on borrowed time as it is. I'm worried I should hang up the ol' Fuji for wall art.
OMG OMG you are living on borrowed time! Stop riding and got join a preppers & survivalists group asap!
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh View Post
its not even clear that its not a stuffed squirrel. There doesn't appear to be any damage to the squirrel, i.e. blood and guts popping out.

It was originally posted a number of years when a good number of people actually thought carbon would assplode.

If you think about it, the force on the fork would not have been any higher than the force imposed by fully locking the front brake. Hence the skepticism that it may have been staged.

The damage to the fork is more consistent with running the front wheel into a fixed object.
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This squirrel thing is derailing my serious thread...
Ok ok last post on this dead horse thing. I call it bs

GCM had a vid on youtube where they put in a chorizo into the spokes and it got cut in half, no way a squirrel will look so "clean" if it did get stuck in the wheel. The force alone would tear it apart.
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Originally Posted by Doug28450 View Post
I can custom a fabricate a fork for you made of Grade 60 reinforcing bars. That really is the only way to go.
No. From billet.
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Old 09-10-15, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by WhyFi View Post
See, a 48-spoke wheel and the squirrel never would have made it in far enough to be a problem.
If the rider was on Spinergy Rev X the squirrel would have be halved before jamming into the fork.
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If the rider was on Spinergy Rev X the squirrel would have be halved before jamming into the fork.
So, old carbon death wheels are the answer to @RPK79's old carbon fork conundrum?

Inconceivable.
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Originally Posted by mawashi View Post
Ok ok last post on this dead horse thing. I call it bs

GCM had a vid on youtube where they put in a chorizo into the spokes and it got cut in half, no way a squirrel will look so "clean" if it did get stuck in the wheel. The force alone would tear it apart.
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I don't know, a squirrel has a lot of fur on its little belly, that would lessen the blow of spokes before they'd be able to cut into it. My buddy hit a squirrel and crashed a couple years ago, the squirrel went into his spokes. It was killed but it wasn't cut to bits, just sorta folded in half.



Plus aero vs. round spokes probably make a big difference in regards to eviscerating small rodents. Someone should start a thread on that.
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Are you still here?
Only because I haven't ridden my bike since starting this thread.
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