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Rude roadies or my ignorance?

Old 09-12-15, 11:09 PM
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Whats an "SGRT?"
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Originally Posted by Rowdyflyer1903 View Post
Whats an "SGRT?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8wlecP8vZ8
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San Gabriel River Trail.

Now, what's a "google"?
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Originally Posted by bakes1 View Post
Seriously?
Fellow bikers ride erratically and then take offense to your reaction and mess with you on purpose and you
just back off politely?
Monday morning quarterbacks are so amusing. Especially when they are not aware enough to factor in emotions lol
Yes, seriously.

Unless you like going through life pizzed off at every jerk who crosses your path.
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Old 09-13-15, 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by r8dr_rider View Post
True, maybe i was mad at what the first guy did to me.. I couldve flew off the trail and down the incline rolling on all the jagged rocks then landed in a bum colony and got raped. Not to mention my bike wouldve got scratched.
this would have undoubtedly entailed a new/separate thread in the "alt bike culture," "adaptive cycling-other needs," "beach cruisers" or "group buy" subforums. thank goodness for small favors.
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but did they wave tho?
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never new bicycle riding was such a difficult activity.
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Originally Posted by r8dr_rider View Post
True. I guess its ok for riders to pass you and slow down and almost kill you carry on....
Fine, it is about you.
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Literally, the only rude riders around here are roadies: They don't announce themselves, they just pass, sometimes too closely. They don't wave, say hello or even look at me (or anyone else for that matter). They don't have bells or mirrors. All-in-all they seem to be rather arrogant, especially when riding in a group. I avoid them like the plague they seem to be. ;o)

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Originally Posted by Joe Minton View Post
Literally, the only rude riders around here are roadies: They don't announce themselves, they just pass, sometimes too closely. They don't wave, say hello or even look at me (or anyone else for that matter). They don't have bells or mirrors. All-in-all they seem to be rather arrogant, especially when riding in a group. I avoid them like the plague they seem to be. ;o)

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Well, bless you for the sensitive, thin-skinned little flower you evidently are. They don't "announce themselves"? They don't wave or say hello? I find it difficult to account for that.

Wait. Maybe they don't know how important you think you are. Could that be it?
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Originally Posted by colnago62 View Post
I have noticed that in these kind of, "I was minding my own business when...", stories that the op is either riding at 400 watts or they were cruising at 20+ miles and hour.
I know I'm a little late to the party, but this made me laugh!
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Old 09-13-15, 11:17 AM
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This bike riding stuff just isn't that complicated. If you didn't want to ride in their group the easiest thing to do would be slow down for a mile or two and let them go, then continue on with your pace.

This isn't a total rip on the Op, just a general rant but I'm kinda amazed at the amount of threads we get here where people have some issue with other people riding....just change up your ride a little bit so you don't have to deal with them. It's just not that difficult.
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Originally Posted by Joe Minton View Post
Literally, the only rude riders around here are roadies: They don't announce themselves, they just pass, sometimes too closely. They don't wave, say hello or even look at me (or anyone else for that matter). They don't have bells or mirrors. All-in-all they seem to be rather arrogant, especially when riding in a group. I avoid them like the plague they seem to be. ;o)

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None of that seems rude to me.
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Old 09-13-15, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by AlmostTrick View Post
Maybe they needed an etiquette lesson. Do you carry a frame pump?
No need to waste a frame pump for that. You have a rear wheel that will do just as good without destroying it, if you take over the lead rider and move to the right just a tad to soon.

This summer, riding with bags on a biking trip, I lost the wheel of my travel companion. Not a big deal. A guy on a mountain bike who was in my wheel for the last few km took over and closed the gap for me. No words spoken, to him it seemed the logical thing to do. One wave when he left our now three people group when he turned right, going his own way. Life is so simple.
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Old 09-13-15, 01:53 PM
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Perhaps I should have said stupid instead of rude.

I accidentally put one of these guys down a while back. Just as he was about to pass me, I moved to the left a little to avoid a dead rabbit. If'n he'd let me know he was there, I would've ran over the road kill. Instead, he clipped my arm with his bar which turned it to the right and steered the bike out from under him. He got a bit skinned and tried to blame me for getting in his way. That, friend, is arrogance and it was stupid.
I have and use a mirror but I don't stare into it in case one of these guys might be coming. They owe it to the person they're about to pass that they 1)are there and 2)are about to pass. It's simple, it's courteous and it's safer.

It is illegal to ride two-abreast here in California, but the roadies do it all the time, even three and four abreast, then -- refuse to get over so cars can pass. I do not see this behavior with other riders, just roadies. I have yet to see one with a bell or mirror on their bike, maybe they're afraid they won't be invited to try out for the TDF if they were to do so -- ;o)

The EU requires that all bikes have: generator-driven lights, reflectors and bells. Bikes are treated like the road vehicles they are and have to meet reasonable safety standards although they get a pass on helmets. We're still Cowboys over here.

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A habit I pick up from velodrome racing is to always look behind me before moving, even in emergency situations, glance. I am not trying to clearly see what is behind me, just there is something there. At the velodrome, the faster rider has the tight of way.
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Originally Posted by Joe Minton View Post
Perhaps I should have said stupid instead of rude.

I accidentally put one of these guys down a while back. Just as he was about to pass me, I moved to the left a little to avoid a dead rabbit. If'n he'd let me know he was there, I would've ran over the road kill. Instead, he clipped my arm with his bar which turned it to the right and steered the bike out from under him. He got a bit skinned and tried to blame me for getting in his way. That, friend, is arrogance and it was stupid.
I have and use a mirror but I don't stare into it in case one of these guys might be coming. They owe it to the person they're about to pass that they 1)are there and 2)are about to pass. It's simple, it's courteous and it's safer.

It is illegal to ride two-abreast here in California, but the roadies do it all the time, even three and four abreast, then -- refuse to get over so cars can pass. I do not see this behavior with other riders, just roadies. I have yet to see one with a bell or mirror on their bike, maybe they're afraid they won't be invited to try out for the TDF if they were to do so -- ;o)

The EU requires that all bikes have: generator-driven lights, reflectors and bells. Bikes are treated like the road vehicles they are and have to meet reasonable safety standards although they get a pass on helmets. We're still Cowboys over here.

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Looks to me as if the arrogance is all yours. Not knowing you is just one more thing I have to be thankful for.
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That's what I do now, after the incident I just wrote about, same as I do in a car. And I agree that the faster rider should have the right of way and I give it.

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Originally Posted by Joe Minton View Post
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The EU requires that all bikes have: generator-driven lights, reflectors and bells. Bikes are treated like the road vehicles they are and have to meet reasonable safety standards although they get a pass on helmets. [...]
Emphasis mine.

That is just bull****.
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RolandArthur:

Your location lends you credibility --- Please enlighten us.

My information was from an article and a video report out of Europe. I certainly could be wrong given that my sources were not official and governmental.

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Originally Posted by RolandArthur View Post
Emphasis mine.

That is just bull****.
Correct. There is no such requirement. Some countries require reflectors, some bells, none that I know of require generator- driven lights, there is no unformity of regulations within the EU.
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It sure is frustrating. I experienced this myself today. I was dressed for success, new full zip jersey loaded with phone, money and Copenhagen and a relatively new set of shorts. I was looking sharp, new helmet and glasses perched on top.

Crusing at 19 mph give or take 5, when all of a sudden 3 riders spring out of nowhere. All I hear is a ding of a bell and they come zipping buy, one on a puegot, a centurion and a schwinn road bike. The. Riders were dressed nice and color coordinated, I was sweating heavily but noticed the riders were female and had a blue colored tint in their hair. They were easily in the early to mid 70s.

I hear them say a snide remark as they overtook me when the leader shouts, (I think she was trying to be quiet but the hearings aids were letting out a squeal). She says , Marguerite, he is a little chunky but wouldn't it be nice to have a youngster in the sack, bill has been gone for 2 years now and that guy is cute. You need to clean the pipes.

I was humiliated. I slowed to 14 mph and stopped for an ice cream cone.

You should try one. It cheered me up.
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Originally Posted by Joe Minton View Post
Perhaps I should have said stupid instead of rude.

I accidentally put one of these guys down a while back. Just as he was about to pass me, I moved to the left a little to avoid a dead rabbit. If'n he'd let me know he was there, I would've ran over the road kill. Instead, he clipped my arm with his bar which turned it to the right and steered the bike out from under him. He got a bit skinned and tried to blame me for getting in his way. That, friend, is arrogance and it was stupid.
I have and use a mirror but I don't stare into it in case one of these guys might be coming. They owe it to the person they're about to pass that they 1)are there and 2)are about to pass. It's simple, it's courteous and it's safer.

It is illegal to ride two-abreast here in California, but the roadies do it all the time, even three and four abreast, then -- refuse to get over so cars can pass. I do not see this behavior with other riders, just roadies. I have yet to see one with a bell or mirror on their bike, maybe they're afraid they won't be invited to try out for the TDF if they were to do so -- ;o)

The EU requires that all bikes have: generator-driven lights, reflectors and bells. Bikes are treated like the road vehicles they are and have to meet reasonable safety standards although they get a pass on helmets. We're still Cowboys over here.

Joe

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Also bull****.

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/wcm/co...k/shr_slow_veh

"Should ride single file on a busy or narrow street." (quote from above)
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Originally Posted by Flatbroke View Post
It sure is frustrating. I experienced this myself today. I was dressed for success, new full zip jersey loaded with phone, money and Copenhagen and a relatively new set of shorts. I was looking sharp, new helmet and glasses perched on top.

Crusing at 19 mph give or take 5, when all of a sudden 3 riders spring out of nowhere. All I hear is a ding of a bell and they come zipping buy, one on a puegot, a centurion and a schwinn road bike. The. Riders were dressed nice and color coordinated, I was sweating heavily but noticed the riders were female and had a blue colored tint in their hair. They were easily in the early to mid 70s.

I hear them say a snide remark as they overtook me when the leader shouts, (I think she was trying to be quiet but the hearings aids were letting out a squeal). She says , Marguerite, he is a little chunky but wouldn't it be nice to have a youngster in the sack, bill has been gone for 2 years now and that guy is cute. You need to clean the pipes.

I was humiliated. I slowed to 14 mph and stopped for an ice cream cone.

You should try one. It cheered me up.

Ha. Those girls were lucky that you didn't pull the dead rabbit maneuver.
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woodcraft:

Back when I learned what the rules were here in CA (50+ yrs ago), bicycles were required to go single-file. Perhaps that has changed; your quote certainly implies that it has. (Thanks for the link, I read it).

I once had a motor officer gently chastise my friend and I for riding two-abreast. That was 1962 and we were on our way for a training ride with our club (Santa Monica Cycle Club) -- wish I'd kept the yellow jersey with the blue diagonal stripe with the letters SMCC on it.

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BTW: Could we knock off the bull**** bull****? ;o)
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