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Campy Veloce vs. 105 which would you choose?

Old 04-29-05, 05:36 AM
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Campy Veloce vs. 105 which would you choose?

which groupo did you like better?
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Old 04-29-05, 05:39 AM
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Veloce 9s or 10s? Six months ago I would have chosen the 105 but currently I am making the conversion from Ultegra to Centaur.
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I prefer Campy, but 105 is a good value. What frame will this group adorn? There's just some bikes that don't "fit" a group for mere traditional reasons.
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I had only ridden Shimano until 1 month ago, and was dead set on getting Ultegra on my new bike. I went out on a limb and ordered an 05 Fuji Team with Centaur 10. I got it yesterday and rode a short loop. I can now say I am one of those Campy snobs. It just seems to fit me better and I like the overall feel of it.


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not really apples to apples if the Veloce is gruppo is 10 speed. I have Veloce 10 speed and as with others love it. 105 is tried and true and hard to fault if you like Shimano.
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veloce. crisper shiftinng. more durable, 10 speed. you're only giving up a splined bb.
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105. Don't like how you're locked in to basically one position on the hoods of Campag. Shimano's much more confortable.
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Old 04-29-05, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by velocipedio
veloce. crisper shiftinng. more durable, 10 speed. you're only giving up a splined bb.
All that plus you can more trim adjustments for the front derailleur and can fairly easily rebuild your shifters down the road, should the need arise (whereas with Shimano you need to buy a new unit, which could become difficult a few years down the road with 105 going 10 speed next year). I think Veloce just works better in general.
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Just got Veloce....love it.
The trimming ability is great....nice snappy shift action.
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Originally Posted by velocipedio
veloce. crisper shiftinng. more durable, 10 speed. you're only giving up a splined bb.
What he said. No question about it, IMO.

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Originally Posted by Waldo
can fairly easily rebuild your shifters down the road, should the need arise...
i do think this is anadvantage, but it's not realistic for the average person. i rebuilt a centaur right shifter last fall. it's do-able. i am proud of the fact that i didi it. but it was six hours of the most frustrating small-parts work in my life.
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Originally Posted by badsac
105. Don't like how you're locked in to basically one position on the hoods of Campag. Shimano's much more confortable.

I am the opposite. I think Campy is much more comfortable, and I don't find myself locked into one position...

I've also grown to love thumb shifters, and feel weird using shimano now...
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Nah, just how on Shimano, you seem to have more positions for your hands on the hoods. I probably feel most comfortable with the palm or the heel of my hands into the ends of the curve of the hoods (I ride ultegra) which you can't do on Campag. Or at least I couldn't on the 20km I rode a Centaur equiped bike before I bought my Roubaix. It was my first modern roadbike at the time so I had no brand loyalty, or even brand snobbery in general.
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Shimano hoods are waaaaay too big. Like punching the air with bricks in your hands.
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Got to hold onto something.
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Originally Posted by Ben Cousins
Veloce. 10 speed, better controls,
That's pretty subjectivve isn't it?
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Originally Posted by velocipedio
i do think this is anadvantage, but it's not realistic for the average person. i rebuilt a centaur right shifter last fall. it's do-able. i am proud of the fact that i didi it. but it was six hours of the most frustrating small-parts work in my life.
Many do it on a routine basis and think it's a cinch. Maybe the skill comes with lots of practice? Still it's something the Shimano folks won't have to put in their resume'.
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Originally Posted by velocipedio
i do think this is anadvantage, but it's not realistic for the average person. i rebuilt a centaur right shifter last fall. it's do-able. i am proud of the fact that i didi it. but it was six hours of the most frustrating small-parts work in my life.
It can certainly be intimidating for the average person, though it should not take nearly that long. Practice does help, of course.
Even if it is rather time-consuming, it's an option you don't have with Shimano. For those that don't wish to rebuild or service the brifters themselves, a competent LBS should be able to do so more economically than sourcing a new comparable Shimano blade assembly.
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Originally Posted by gcasillo
I prefer Campy, but 105 is a good value. What frame will this group adorn? There's just some bikes that don't "fit" a group for mere traditional reasons.
The campy on on the Lemond Sarthe and the 105 is on the Lemond Croix de Fir same frame and fork but the sarthe has better components. the catch is my LBS has the Croix in stock and has to order the sarthe. which means I pay up front before I ride that makes me nervious.
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They should either allow that your deposit is refundable or allow you to put that money towards a different bike if you do not like the one they order. Never worked at a shop that wouldn't do that. Did you ask them their policy on the matter?
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10s vs 9s.

Octalink has smaller bearings than square taper.

The Sarthe has better wheels.

Get the Sarthe.
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Originally Posted by galen_52657
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hey, velocipedio.....do you see what I mean?
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I tried them both and went with the Campy
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