bgreen414

I'm considering buying a used Seven Axiom bicycle and wanted to get people's opinions as to whether this is a fair deal. I've found it difficult to do comps of second hand Seven bikes and could use some advice. Here are the details:

Asking Price: $3000
Frame: Seven Axiom Ti Frame - built in late 2003.
Fork: Seven 5E Fork (full carbon/45 degree rake). Installed in 2010 (upgraded to full carbon fork).
Group: 2009 Campagnolo Record 10-speed including QS Ultra carbon shifters, 50-34 carbon crank (175mm) and a 12-25 titanium cassette. Installed in 2010 with only 1,200 miles.
Wheels: Mavic Ksyrium SSC (installed in 2010; only 1,200 miles)
Seatpost: Thompson Elite (installed in 2010)
Stem: Ritchey WCS - 110mm, +/-6 degree (installed in 2010)
Handlebar: Ritchey WCS (installed in 2010)
Saddle: Fizik Aliante (installed in 2010)
Computer: Mavic including skewer transmitter (installed in 2010)

The bike is in excellent condition (given it's age) and appears to have been well taken care of by the owner. I had myself fitted and the bike's geometry is a fit for me.

Any input is appreciated! Thanks in advance!

Lazyass

Sweet bike but I couldn't cough up that kind of money given the age.

rms13

$3k seems like way too much for a 12 year old bike with 6 year old previous gen groupset even if the frame was made of solid gold.

If you want to spend $3k on ti bike why not this:

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And if you're ashamed to ride a BD bike, I've heard all the decals will easily come off with a scotch brite pad

datlas 

Offer him $2200 and accept $2500, assuming the fit and function are perfect.

jsigone

^^^^ yup

TrojanHorse

Well, as for the frame being old, it's Ti! And it's new enough to have avoided (probably) any gripes about noodles, so you figure the frame is probably worth about 1500 as is. The rest? Up to you. I would definitely haggle the guy down though, that's a lot of money for a well-used bike.

Marcus_Ti

Not that well used. Shoot I've ridden more miles since April ( several time over) than that bike has had on it since 2010!

Comparing to a new Motobecane...meh. There's something to be said for country-made pride, what that is worth entirely depends on you.

rms13

That's also assuming you actually trust the mileage the seller is quoting. Personally I take people's mileage claims on used bikes and multiply by 10 to get closer to the truth

Sasquatch16

I paid $1200 for a 2001 Axiom SL frame and fork. Put new decals on it and frame looks new. At time put full Ultegra 6700 group and Kysrium Elite wheels. Have about 3k invested. I would contact Seven with serial number and try to get a feel for the weight of rider frame was built for.

Secret Squirrel

The paint seems to be in good shape and it doesn't look like a lot of mileage. It looks like a custom paint request. I could see why they want $3000. Steep price for an older unit.

BillyD

This.

3K is a lot for a used old-ish bike.

TrojanHorse

Oh, I must have missed the part where you said it was a 2010 frame.

bgreen414

Thanks for the input -- it is really helpful. $3K is at the top of my budget for a bike and I was feeling a little cautious about paying that much for a frame that's 12 years old (even with the newer components).

I realize that Ti frames will last forever, but I don't want to blow my budget if the bike's likely not worth the asking price. I'll offer $2200 as suggested and see where it goes!

Marcus_Ti

It is a titanium frame, quality ones likes Sevens last forever unless you run them over with a truck.

The only real wear to worry about is the transmission and wheels.

fa63

I couldn't sell my 2006 Seven Elium SLX (their top of the line, carbon titanium mix frame) with 10-speed Campy Record for $2,500. I think $2K is probably closer to what the market value of that bike is, maybe even less.

By the way, if you ride a 57 cm frame, I still have the Elium frameset available. At my asking price, you could build it up with new components for $2.5K

a1penguin

You can purchase a Lynskey at the Ultegra level for $3k if you hurry. Summer sale might be over soon as it is no longer summer.

SSRI

if you really want Ti, The lynsky would be a better deal.
3k is way too much, the record components are nice but is 10 speed.
for 3K you can piece together a much better set up.

dalava

Way way too much. 2k or less.

bgreen414

Thanks for the very helpful
feedback. I offered $2K and was countered with $2500. Having read the feedback from the above posts, I'm inclined to be firm with my offer.

calimtb

$3K will also you get a butted titanium frame with Dura Ace 11 speed from bikesdirect.