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69chevy 10-23-15 12:41 PM

If my bike weighed 15lbs, instead of 20lbs, how much faster would I be.
 
Knowing my average speed and my average grade....

If I dropped 5lbs off of my bike, I would be .1 MPH faster.

If you wonder how much faster a lighter bike would make you and you know your average speed and grade (or power) you can use this calculator to get an approximation. Aero gains can't be calculated here. Just weight differences.

Bike Calculator

Dan333SP 10-23-15 12:42 PM

Thanks for sharing.

Edited to add something useful-

Bicycle Speed (Velocity) And Power Calculator

This one gives you all sorts of numbers and allows you to adjust rider drag, rolling resistance, elevation, ect.

Not sure how accurate it is, though. Says that, holding the same power (250 watts as an example) on a flat road, going from riding on my hoods to the drops would cause me to accelerate from 19.4 mph to 21.9. There are a lot of variables involved in that (drop depth, elbows bent/straight, back flat, saddle-bar drop, ect.) so I'd take any of these calculators with a huge grain of salt.

BoSoxYacht 10-23-15 12:47 PM

Ask a physics professor that is a cyclist. They might be able to explain to you how the question you are asking has too many variables to answer easily.

Smokehouse 10-23-15 12:59 PM

I would say at least 3a faster...if not 5q. Me? I ate a large lunch so I'd probably only be 2.6n faster.

grote 10-23-15 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by BoSoxYacht (Post 18265166)
Ask a physics professor that is a cyclist. They might be able to explain to you how the question you are asking has too many variables to answer easily.

This is very true... For example, you can change your speed by .1 mph just by consistently riding on the painted stripe of the road. That little bit of extra smoothness created by the paint makes a difference you can actually feel.

(Not exactly a practical piece of advice though since you might swing out into traffic!)

Dan333SP 10-23-15 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by grote (Post 18265214)
This is very true... For example, you can change your speed by .1 mph just by consistently riding on the painted stripe of the road. That little bit of extra smoothness created by the paint makes a difference you can actually feel.

(Not exactly a practical piece of advice though since you might swing out into traffic!)

But what if the paint is fresh and sticky? Do we have a formula we can use to determine tire drag based on a given type of road paint's drying times in various environments?

PepeM 10-23-15 01:11 PM

Are white and yellow paint the same?

Wheever 10-23-15 01:13 PM

0 to 60 in 3.5 seconds faster.

caloso 10-23-15 01:15 PM

Conduct an experiment. Take your current bike and add 5 pounds. (It's a lot easier to add weight than to subtract it, just use water in backpack). Ride around, collect data. Add another 5 pounds, ride around, collect data. Repeat. Graph out your findings, draw conclusions. I bet you could win a ribbon at the middle school science fair.

bbbean 10-23-15 01:17 PM

Duh! You'd be 5 lbs faster!

Dan333SP 10-23-15 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by caloso (Post 18265254)
Conduct an experiment. Take your current bike and add 5 pounds. (It's a lot easier to add weight than to subtract it, just use water in backpack). Ride around, collect data. Add another 5 pounds, ride around, collect data. Repeat. Graph out your findings, draw conclusions. I bet you could win a ribbon at the middle school science fair.

Only if your tri-fold poster board game is strong.

http://40.media.tumblr.com/3ace8edb4...26io1_1280.jpg

PepeM 10-23-15 01:18 PM

What if there is no lbs in my small town?

DaveLeeNC 10-23-15 01:26 PM

FWIW, I wrote an Excel based bike simulator simply to answer questions like this. The motivation was to understand how much, if any, performance improvement was available by doing stuff like new wheels, lighter bike, etc. It saved me some money :-)

Given my personal riding style/habits and the areas where I ride, dropping 5 pounds would net me less than a 0.1 mph improvement (according to the simulator). Why yes, I'd love to have another piece of chocolate cake :-)

dave

Dan333SP 10-23-15 01:26 PM

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@PepeM great question!

Here's another quality science experiment with relevant data for cyclists-

http://www.stevespanglerscience.com/...cs-570x375.jpg

colnago62 10-23-15 01:30 PM

It is very expensive to put my bike on a diet. Much cheaper putting me on a diet.

motorthings 10-23-15 01:32 PM

41% faster

kc0bbq 10-23-15 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by DaveLeeNC (Post 18265289)
FWIW, I wrote an Excel based bike simulator simply to answer questions like this. The motivation was to understand how much, if any, performance improvement was available by doing stuff like new wheels, lighter bike, etc. It saved me some money :-)

Given my personal riding style/habits and the areas where I ride, dropping 5 pounds would net me less than a 0.1 mph improvement (according to the simulator). Why yes, I'd love to have another piece of chocolate cake :-)

dave

Loosing 100 pounds on a climb I do often would net me 5.6mph with no extra effort and a Strava KoM. Is 75lbs too unhealthy for someone who is 6'2"? I think I can do it without losing any strength.

69chevy 10-23-15 01:36 PM

Using the dollar/gram weight weenie thumb rule (a grams weight savings is worth a dollar) I employed my calculator skills and concluded that for me...

A 1 mph gain would result in spending $22,680 and I would end up with a -30lb bike.

I guess you measure negative weight with lift, so I'm going to invent a wingset that will lift some of my weight off of the road.

FrozenK 10-23-15 01:37 PM

Are we talking how much faster you'd be using real world physics or 41 physics? Because with 41 physics you'd be slower on the lighter bike.

69chevy 10-23-15 01:39 PM

Or I'll just buy this one.
http://trippalukastyle.com/wp-conten...ta-Springs.jpg

69chevy 10-23-15 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by kc0bbq (Post 18265320)
Loosing 100 pounds on a climb I do often would net me 5.6mph with no extra effort and a Strava KoM. Is 75lbs too unhealthy for someone who is 6'2"? I think I can do it without losing any strength.


http://www.hardgainermusclebuilding..../skinnyman.jpg
You wouldn't be too skinny.

DaveWC 10-23-15 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by FrozenK (Post 18265323)
Are we talking how much faster you'd be using real world physics or 41 physics? Because with 41 physics you'd be slower on the lighter bike.

That rule only applies to mere mortals.

Dan333SP 10-23-15 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by 69chevy (Post 18265330)

I love the sign sneaking in on the left there... "Please pardon our progress" indeed.

FrozenK 10-23-15 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by DaveWC (Post 18265340)
That rule only applies to mere mortals.

I forgot, you need a pro license to gain any speed from a lighter bike!

DaveWC 10-23-15 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by 69chevy (Post 18265142)
If I dropped 5lbs off of my bike, I would be .1 MPH faster.

If you wonder how much faster a lighter bike would make you and you know your average speed and grade (or power) you can use this calculator to get an approximation. Aero gains can't be calculated here. Just weight differences.

Bike Calculator

Not falling for that again. The last time we did this exercise we all diligently calculated the time/speed gain that various scenarios produced & then the flat earthers came out & told us that a) it only applies to pros b) even though the time gained was easily calculated, it was a wash when other factors were extrapolated c) time differences of 20-30 seconds are impossible to calculate.

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