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Old 11-01-15, 01:40 PM
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High-end parts on low-end frame?

After 20 years and 25,000+ miles my '95 Trek 370 was worn out. I repainted it and rebuilt it with a less aggressive handlebar setup, Force 22 group set and Zonda wheels. Other cyclists have given me grief and said I'm a fool for putting high-end components on an old cro-moly frame. For about $1200 in parts and help from the LBS I have the frame that I've loved riding for 20 years that went from 26.6 pounds to 21.2 pounds and now rides silky smooth. Plus I got the experience of completely tearing down and rebuilding a bike. Why am I a fool for doing this?
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Old 11-01-15, 01:44 PM
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Doesn't sound like you're a fool to me. You kept a bike you loved, and made it better.
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You area fool for listening to other riders. You wouldn't even have to ask if you had been here for a few more weeks.

Some cyclists are more than a little narrow-minded and like to preach as much as they like to ride (at least.)

I see things your way---I have a bike I like, I can piece it together into a better bike and better, and better still ... So long as you end up with a bike you like to ride, .... whatever.

For $1200 you could buy a bike which weighed just a little more than your existing bike, with just slightly less good components---what a bargain. But--it would be "modern" and have the right sticker on the side, so you could park it outside the cafe and everyone would know how cool you were ... except those same cyclists, who would rag on you for not spending a bunch more cash on the upgraded model.

The only way to win with those folks is to keep riding, keep smiling, and remember that if they were enjoying their bikes as much as you are enjoying yours, they wouldn't be complaining.
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5 pounds of savings and a bike set up you love for $1200 sounds like a bargain to me.
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Frames are overrated.
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Old 11-01-15, 02:42 PM
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Frames are overrated.
But I'm not good enough yet to ride without a frame.
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Old 11-01-15, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by dksix View Post
5 pounds of savings and a bike set up you love for $1200 sounds like a bargain to me.
3 months ago everything but the tires and seat were original to the bike. Including the chain. Most components were worn/aged to the point of barely being functional. The weight savings is just a bonus.
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That's a fairly lovely bike there.
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How about a 95 Huffy MTB with Araya 700c wheels, Diacompe brakes and aero levers, Sakae aluminum drop bars, Alloy stem, custom hand built rear rack, and upgraded Shimano freewheel and shifting components.....

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I had a Huffy crank snap free from the chainring as i was blasting through an intersection ... swap out the crankset, would be my advice.
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Old 11-01-15, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by OmegaWolf View Post
After 20 years and 25,000+ miles my '95 Trek 370 was worn out. I repainted it and rebuilt it with a less aggressive handlebar setup, Force 22 group set and Zonda wheels. Other cyclists have given me grief and said I'm a fool for putting high-end components on an old cro-moly frame. For about $1200 in parts and help from the LBS I have the frame that I've loved riding for 20 years that went from 26.6 pounds to 21.2 pounds and now rides silky smooth. Plus I got the experience of completely tearing down and rebuilding a bike. Why am I a fool for doing this?
i wouldn't worry it. it's not as if expensive parts devalue immediately upon attachment to a low-priced or 'worn-out' frame. and if a new frame is lurking over the horizon at least the parts, in the mean time, can be evaluated to a degree.

i've got a few modern non-steel-framed bikes, and as much as i like them, it always surprises me a little how enjoyable it is to ride one of my vintage steel treks even though i'm giving away, worst case, more than ten pounds.

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Old 11-01-15, 04:54 PM
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I'm a sucker for steel with nice parts. The only thing I'd do differently is track down a 1" threadless fork. You've got something nobody else has, and it looks good as a bonus.
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Old 11-01-15, 05:09 PM
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Yep tell those guys to bite it that's a great ride they are just jealous.
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I did somewhat the same thing. My buddy sold me his Origin 8 Chinese Carbon bike for $200. I stripped the bike down to the frame and kept it while selling everything else on eBay and Craigslist for $300 net. I proceeded to install new Ultegra 6700 groupset, my old Mavic Ksyrium Elite S wheelset, FSA Plasma handlebar, and a new Selle Itaila Flite saddle. The bike is light and rides beautifully. I just loved the carbon weave on the frame which is the main reason for this project. The whole thing cost me around $750 for new stuff, not counting my older wheels and handlebar. The bike weight is 16.1 lbs.
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Here's a little bit of good browsing when you have time.
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...i-s-ergos.html
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It only matters to a local bike shop when they have to do a build to sell the entire bike.
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It looks nice.

$1200 seems like a lot to invest in the upgrades, but the end result looks good.

And surely, you have a nicer bike than a $1200 "entry" level bike.

I've upgraded bits here and there on my old bike which I still like to ride, but I'm considering a complete restore/rebuild sometime, probably with a mix of old (classic) and new (contemporary) components.
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That's a fairly lovely bike there.
Thanks. It turned out even nicer than I expected.
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Johnny Mullet - That's a nice unique Huffy you have there. I had a 24" wheel Huffy Open Road when I was a teenager. I really liked that bike.
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I did somewhat the same thing. My buddy sold me his Origin 8 Chinese Carbon bike for $200. I stripped the bike down to the frame and kept it while selling everything else on eBay and Craigslist for $300 net. I proceeded to install new Ultegra 6700 groupset, my old Mavic Ksyrium Elite S wheelset, FSA Plasma handlebar, and a new Selle Itaila Flite saddle. The bike is light and rides beautifully. I just loved the carbon weave on the frame which is the main reason for this project. The whole thing cost me around $750 for new stuff, not counting my older wheels and handlebar. The bike weight is 16.1 lbs.
i've heard that some people don't like the 12K weave. it suits me. looks a bit like hound's tooth to me.

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After 20 years and 25,000+ miles my '95 Trek 370 was worn out. I repainted it and rebuilt it with a less aggressive handlebar setup, Force 22 group set and Zonda wheels. Other cyclists have given me grief and said I'm a fool for putting high-end components on an old cro-moly frame. For about $1200 in parts and help from the LBS I have the frame that I've loved riding for 20 years that went from 26.6 pounds to 21.2 pounds and now rides silky smooth. Plus I got the experience of completely tearing down and rebuilding a bike. Why am I a fool for doing this?
Its a great built. Have you consider going back to a quill stem, the stem adapter is really messing up the look. If you want positive rise stem this might be a good option.

Adjustable Alloy Bicycle Bike 25 4 31 8 Quill Stem 105 105mm 31 8mm | eBay

but if the quill stem adapter works for you leave it alone
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Have you consider going back to a quill stem, the stem adapter is really messing up the look. If you want positive rise stem this might be a good option.
I was surprised how awkward the stem looks in this photo. I think it looks a lot better in person. I have the type of stem you suggested on my hybrid bike and it works well there. Something to consider.
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a stem adapter does look ugly but I kinda make it look decent by slamin' the stem without much saddle-to-drop ratio
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Fork looks so anemic.

But I think it is a reasonable choice. You can always move the parts over to a newer/better frame down the road.

I'm confused on your cable stops on the downtube. Are those attached to the old downtube shifter bosses, or did you remove them and clamp something on (looks like some sort of Problem Solvers clamp)?
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Whatever floats your boat! I don't think you need to apologize or have any excuse for upgrading a frame you like.

Plus, Force and Zondas are high end like a Toyota Camry is high end... Works great, but high end...? :-/
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