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Old 11-10-15, 08:36 AM
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Braking in a paceline...

First let me say, I am speechless. Billy you inexplicably closed one on the most entertaining threads on the forum because of talking about braking in a paceline? I must be missing something? What in the world is wrong with talking about public safety?...the pitfalls of braking in a paceline? I must not have received the memo on this. Has this been a source of angst here before? I didn't know the concept of braking is so incendiary.

Billy, you suggested starting another thread which I just did...but why in the world close one of the longest running threads which has been a staple on the forum? If you like, delete all my posts in that thread. I would prefer that to being the guy that got that thread closed. Never my intent.
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Old 11-10-15, 09:03 AM
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Enlighten me on the metaphorical reference...presuming there is one LA.
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The first rule of We’re going to yell at you is: you do not talk about braking in a pacelene… . The second rule of We’re going to yell at you is: you DO NOT talk about braking in a paceline!
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The first rule of We’re going to yell at you is: you do not talk about braking in a pacelene… . The second rule of We’re going to yell at you is: you DO NOT talk about braking in a paceline!
So it's OK to talk about fight club?
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All good things must come to an end.

But, don't spend too much time contemplating your impending doom.
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So it's OK to talk about fight club?
Only when braking in a paceline.
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I do appreciate the irony that Billy yelled at all y'all in a thread about yelling at people.
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"I want that silly, disruptive argument about braking to end, now. And I do not want to see it return in this thread again. Start a new thread about that crap."

Sounds like he plans on opening that thread, after he gets his point across to the numbskulls that keep fighting about braking in a paceline.
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All good things must come to an end.

But, don't spend too much time contemplating your impending doom.
And therefore never send to know for whom the bell toll; It tolls for thee...
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Originally Posted by jsharr View Post
Only when braking in a paceline.
That makes good sense. When braking in a paceline, that immediately becomes fight club!
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That makes good sense. When braking in a paceline, that immediately becomes fight club!
You realize you just accused me of making sense, do you not? Apologize now.
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All good things must come to an end.

But, don't spend too much time contemplating your impending doom.
I think if we show we can play nicely for awhile, it might get reopened.
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Inducing drag is inducing drag and no matter how you do it it's all about your awareness of circumstances & technique. Last I checked nothing orthodoxically religious about paceline riding whereas spontaneous combustion, the precipitation of cats & dogs, and porcine aviation harboring the end times, will result if one feathers a brake.

Then again, I am in possession of those magical devices that modulate in a far superior fashion versus the ancient apparatus.
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First let me say, I am speechless. Billy you inexplicably closed one on the most entertaining threads on the forum because of talking about braking in a paceline? I must be missing something?

I would prefer that to being the guy that got that thread closed. Never my intent.
Clearly you don't read well.

* * * Hey guys, this thread has been around for a long time, deservedly or not. Whatever! What I'm not liking is this bickering between individuals.

What some of you guys have to learn is to let crap go. If you try to make a point and your "opponent" repeatedly doesn't get it, LET IT GO. Screw him, his loss! Sometimes you can't teach a pig to sing.

But I'm not liking the hostility in this thread. So you guys arguing about silly crap, please stop. Argue silly crap somewhere else. Thanks!
And now you're all... doh, he actually did what he said he would do. Waaah. I want a restart.
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Clearly you don't read well.
Maybe I should help you write. I am guilty of not following the Yell at you thread very closely. Nonetheless it is source of entertainment and an institution on the 41 so its closing is of some import. So if braking in a paceline is a subject of scorn or disagreement then that must of been the chord I hit.

I have pretty strong views on braking in pacelines...maybe because I have been pacelining for 4 decades. Brakes are a last resort. Those that need to feather them constantly shouldn't be in a paceline...they don't know how to ride. 30% of amateur riders who paceline need lessons. Some even with lessons should never be in a paceline.
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Originally Posted by jsharr View Post
The first rule of We’re going to yell at you is: you do not talk about braking in a pacelene… . The second rule of We’re going to yell at you is: you DO NOT talk about braking in a paceline!
Why not?
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So, I haven't read that other thread for awhile. What is the consensus on paceline braking?
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Why not?
Are you questioning BillyD?!!!!
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People are usually braking because they pedal too hard and need to bleed off speed. So the person behind them sees them jamming on the gas and they also give it the gas to maintain distance. Oh man, things are really heating up! The guy behind can't really see that far ahead. then Screeeeech! they jam on their brakes so the guy behind realizes he just wasted effort. Then they hit the gas again because they don't know how to ride their bike.

This is why I avoid the big group rides in the area. Half the people can't ride a bike worth a flying fubar and they are on tri bikes which are double scary.

Give me a faithful few, three or four companions who know how to ride, and we'll ride.
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Everyone behind you will hit you and you all will crash .. overlapping the wheel in front, 1st stop pedaling

following riders can see that .
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Pacelining...very complicated stuff and only for the true cyclist. Newbies need not apply.

smh

You guys argue about this like it is seriously complicated stuff that someone can't figure out the first time out with some minimal verbal instruction by a more experienced rider.
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Everyone behind you will hit you and you all will crash .. overlapping the wheel in front, 1st stop pedaling

following riders can see that .
Ah, that is what I do. If I'm moving up on the rider ahead I'll let off on the pedaling, then sit up, then apply a small amount of brake. In that order and only doing the next step if the first did not slow me enough.
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