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Old 01-03-16, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by rms13 View Post
I'm pretty sure Nashbar bikes are assembled in Chiina or Taiwan where they are manufactured. It is much cheaper to have one or two standard one size fits all configurations when you are selling a bike than customizing to every customer. Look at the way car dealerships work. Sure there are options you can order but all of the cars that they stock on their lots are the most popular options that the majority of the people want
When you refer to place of manufacture being China or Taiwan, I assume you mostly mean the frames; though perhaps Shimano is manufacturing there as well, or Vittoria tires or FSA cranks, etc.. The point being I was comparing to Ribble or Planet X who assemble (or at least Ribble indicates it's so) their bikes at their UK plants.. no need to look for comparisons to the auto industry. Sure it might be cheaper to offer limited options -- eg. Nashbar offers a single 105 and Ultegra version of a carbon road bike, but these come with no choices of wheels, stems, handlebars, saddle, tires, etc.. all items Nashbar sells anyway. Why not at the very least throw in the dropdowns to give customers options to build bike with different cockpits etc.. Nashbar could throw an extra $10-20 on each item's retail price (less the stock equipment cost) to do the labor to swap out; people probably willing to pay this to avoid the hassle.
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Old 01-03-16, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Sy Reene View Post
When you refer to place of manufacture being China or Taiwan, I assume you mostly mean the frames; though perhaps Shimano is manufacturing there as well, or Vittoria tires or FSA cranks, etc.. The point being I was comparing to Ribble or Planet X who assemble (or at least Ribble indicates it's so) their bikes at their UK plants.. no need to look for comparisons to the auto industry. Sure it might be cheaper to offer limited options -- eg. Nashbar offers a single 105 and Ultegra version of a carbon road bike, but these come with no choices of wheels, stems, handlebars, saddle, tires, etc.. all items Nashbar sells anyway. Why not at the very least throw in the dropdowns to give customers options to build bike with different cockpits etc.. Nashbar could throw an extra $10-20 on each item's retail price (less the stock equipment cost) to do the labor to swap out; people probably willing to pay this to avoid the hassle.
Again because Nashbar would have to pay someone to do labor of assembling custom parts. I'm pretty sure the only Nashbar employees are customer service. I doubt they employ mechanics
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Old 01-03-16, 09:00 PM
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For $2,000 I would get the Specialized Allez Sprint. It has Sram and everything.
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Old 01-03-16, 09:04 PM
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For $2,000 (MSRP) I would get the 2016 Giant TCR Advanced 2. Tried and true Giant carbon frame with a 105.

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Old 01-03-16, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by PepeM View Post
For $2,000 I would get the Specialized Allez Sprint. It has Sram and everything.
The 1x11 drive train with 48 up front and 11-32 cassette would be prevent serious climbing for most. But if OP is in a flat area it would be worth considering.
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Originally Posted by exime View Post
For $2,000 (MSRP) I would get the 2016 Giant TCR Advanced 2. Tried and true Giant carbon frame with a 105.

Also good for the price. Not the lightest frame but they give you full 105 with cranks and brakes which other brands don't
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Old 01-03-16, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by rms13 View Post
The 1x11 drive train with 48 up front and 11-32 cassette would be prevent serious climbing for most. But if OP is in a flat area it would be worth considering.
48-32 is not too bad of a low gear but I am aware that the 1x11 drivetrain is probably a deal breaker for most. I personally look forward to switching to 1x, not a big fan of front derailleurs. Also, a 2x version is supposedly coming but I don't know when or for how much.
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I am most likely going to be buying a ribble sportive bike with 105/fulcrum 3 wheels, Its a great deal especially if you know your preference on seat and can figure out the right stem length.
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Old 01-03-16, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by PepeM View Post
48-32 is not too bad of a low gear but I am aware that the 1x11 drivetrain is probably a deal breaker for most. I personally look forward to switching to 1x, not a big fan of front derailleurs. Also, a 2x version is supposedly coming but I don't know when or for how much.
Yeah also interested in 1x. sram has up to 42t cog so you could get a gear combo better for climbing
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I would get this, the styling is just top notch from Giant. 1800 MSRP and I bet most can't tell Tiagra from 105
Defy Advanced 3 (2016) | Giant Bicycles | United States
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Old 01-03-16, 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 2702 View Post
I would get this, the styling is just top notch from Giant. 1800 MSRP and I bet most can't tell Tiagra from 105
Defy Advanced 3 (2016) | Giant Bicycles | United States
New Tiagra looks cool but i'm not sure about mechanical disc brakes.
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Originally Posted by 2702 View Post
I would get this, the styling is just top notch from Giant. 1800 MSRP and I bet most can't tell Tiagra from 105
Defy Advanced 3 (2016) | Giant Bicycles | United States
I was considering a 2016 Defy 2 disc as my bad weather ride. But calling that styling top notch? I think it's one of the ugliest frames. It reminds me of a cruiser. The graphics are whatever. The color scheme on the grey black and red Defy Advanced 3 is nice though.

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New Tiagra looks cool but i'm not sure about mechanical disc brakes.
The Tektro TRP Spyres are awesome mechical disc brakes. Probably the best mechanicals on the market. Good modulation and feel. Some people who have tried both the Spyres and the cable actuated hydraulic Hy/Rd brakes even say that the $40 extra per caliper on top of the Spyres isnt worth it. Its nice to see that bike companies are including very nice disc brake on their Tiagra/105 level bikes. Very welcomed departure from the normal 105/Ultegra level bike with $30 Tektros. But you are paying for it. I wouldn't exactly call $1800 a bargain for a carbon frame with 4700.

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I was considering a 2016 Defy 2 disc as my bad weather ride. But calling that styling top notch? I think it's one of the ugliest frames. It reminds me of a cruiser. The graphics are whatever. The color scheme on the grey black and red Defy Advanced 3 is nice though.



The Tektro TRP Spyres are awesome mechical disc brakes. Probably the best mechanicals on the market. Good modulation and feel. Some people who have tried both the Spyres and the cable actuated hydraulic Hy/Rd brakes even say that the $40 extra per caliper on top of the Spyres isnt worth it. Its nice to see that bike companies are including very nice disc brake on their Tiagra/105 level bikes. Very welcomed departure from the normal 105/Ultegra level bike with $30 Tektros. But you are paying for it. I wouldn't exactly call $1800 a bargain for a carbon frame with 4700.
Oh it's nice to hear that. I had mechanical brakes on my first mtb and i hate them. Sounds like TRP is a nice brand. Thanks for information.

Btw Tektro makes some good brakes too like R741 on my Synapse. They are also pricey: https://www.bike24.com/1.php?menu=100...;product=37750
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Originally Posted by OnyxTiger View Post
Another GREAT option:

Fuji Transonic 2.8 Road Bike- 2015 - Performance Exclusive

Fuji Transonic 2.5 LE Road Bike -- 2016 Performance Exclusive

Fuji Altamira 1.1 Road Bike - 2016

If looking for bang for the buck value and a re-emerging reputation for solid quality builds, Fuji has to be in the discussion.
that 2.5 lo toasty
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Originally Posted by 2702 View Post
I would get this, the styling is just top notch from Giant. 1800 MSRP and I bet most can't tell Tiagra from 105
Defy Advanced 3 (2016) | Giant Bicycles | United States
looks like a solid bike.


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New Tiagra looks cool but i'm not sure about mechanical disc brakes.
mech disc brakes are for people who dont want to deal with hydro fluid every time they want to service their bikes. i mean it seems like a good move to me since ive never delt with hydro brakes before.


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For $2,000 I would get the Specialized Allez Sprint. It has Sram and everything.
now THAT IS A HOT BIKE. wow... its at the cap for my preferred price point but wow. i usual dont like that style of seat post, with the cutout for the wheel but this fits very well.

this is at the top for my list for now. after this is the canyon ultimate sl alx.
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Originally Posted by 11rwood22 View Post
this is at the top for my list for now. after this is the canyon ultimate sl alx.
Are you located in the U.S.? If you find a Canyon anywhere, I'd like to know... I have a jones for the Aeroad CF SLX
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Originally Posted by 11rwood22 View Post
now THAT IS A HOT BIKE. wow... its at the cap for my preferred price point but wow. i usual dont like that style of seat post, with the cutout for the wheel but this fits very well.

this is at the top for my list for now. after this is the canyon ultimate sl alx.
Don't think you can buy the Sprint just yet but they should be coming soon. The Ultimate is also a good looking ride.

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Are you located in the U.S.? If you find a Canyon anywhere, I'd like to know... I have a jones for the Aeroad CF SLX
I believe Canyon sells online only. Does anyone know if that's correct?
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Originally Posted by OnyxTiger View Post
Are you located in the U.S.? If you find a Canyon anywhere, I'd like to know... I have a jones for the Aeroad CF SLX

oh.... dern. looking into it they dont sell in the usa. well nevermind then......
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oh.... dern. looking into it they dont sell in the usa. well nevermind then......
They are supposed to at some point. Could be a long wait though.
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Originally Posted by PepeM View Post
They are supposed to at some point. Could be a long wait though.
not worth it. my road bike got stolen and im riding a fixed gear and i have to skip a lot local rides just because of this.
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Doesn't the allez sprint have only 1 front chainring
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Doesn't the allez sprint have only 1 front chainring
correct.
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Ive seen a 2015 Felt AR5 go for under 2000. That is a BANGin bike. I think there was a test that found it to the fastest bike on market in terms of aero
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It does. Meant as a crit bike where the small ring rarely will get any use. You can also get the same range of a compact using a 10-42 cassette.
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It does. Meant as a crit bike where the small ring rarely will get any use. You can also get the same range of a compact using a 10-42 cassette.
I am also a confirmed FD hater so I am interested in seeing pricing and options once the Force 1 and Rival 1 groupsets become available at UK retailers but I also wonder what the weight penalty for 10-42 cassette is?
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