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nice alloy frames that ARE NOT a CAAD10/12, Emonda ALR, or Allez/Allez Sprint

Old 01-14-16, 05:34 PM
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nice alloy frames that ARE NOT a CAAD10/12, Emonda ALR, or Allez/Allez Sprint

Ive been shopping around for a no-nonesense racing bike frame. Something thats lightish, stiff, crashproof (as much as a bike can be), and plays nicely with moisture. I keep writing off alloy as a material because of how it used to be known to ride, and the fugly welds it usually has. I recognize the first reason is largely unfounded anymore, and I recognize that alloy is probably the material that suits my criteria best short of stainless, titanium, and some carbon. Please school me on worthwhile alloy bikes. Required is clearance for 28mm tires, cleaned up welds, and a tapered fork, bonus points for internal cables and a horizontal top tube.
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I'm looking for a new bike and I found this looks interesting.
Looks like is made in Ita;ly with their own tubing instead of made in China.
dedacciai ALLUMINIO ? Gruppo Stelvio
Any opinion in a carbon frame?
I'm looking for a new road bike.
This brand as some cool ones but a opinion will be great
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28c tired race frame? Seems unusual.
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Originally Posted by chaadster View Post
28c tired race frame? Seems unusual.
Not really, cannonade supersix, caad 12, new (aero) madone, venge vias, and specialized tarmac all clear a 28 officially. unofficially an emonda SLR clears 30s. Many modern race rigs have increased clearances, but many modern race bikes can also be deflected when you squeeze the tubes with your thumb and forefinger...
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The Van Dessel Hellafaster meets all your criteria and will take 28mm tires. Made in USA too.

Hellafaster Road Bike Frame

BIKE COLLECTION - Van Dessel
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Originally Posted by CafeVelo View Post
Not really, cannonade supersix, caad 12, new (aero) madone, venge vias, and specialized tarmac all clear a 28 officially. unofficially an emonda SLR clears 30s. Many modern race rigs have increased clearances, but many modern race bikes can also be deflected when you squeeze the tubes with your thumb and forefinger...
I didn't know! Thanks!
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Originally Posted by seymour1910 View Post
The Van Dessel Hellafaster meets all your criteria and will take 28mm tires. Made in USA too.

Hellafaster Road Bike Frame

BIKE COLLECTION - Van Dessel
welds are kind of meh, but thats hot.
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Originally Posted by chaadster View Post
28c tired race frame? Seems unusual.
Bike comes in well underweight.

A bit tight on the Tarmac, but fit fine on the Venge.
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Originally Posted by Doge View Post
Bike comes in well underweight.



A bit tight on the Tarmac, but fit fine on the Venge.
sorry, should clarify this applies to 2015 and later tarmacs according to Specialized and various reviews. Id be afraid to ride that bike as it sits!
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Originally Posted by CafeVelo View Post
welds are kind of meh, but thats hot.
Understood on the welds. I like they're bikes though. I like that they are made here. Strongly considering going with Van Dessel.
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Giant TCR SLR is up there with the CAAD12 and Emonda ALR for super lightweight alum frames.
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sorry, should clarify this applies to 2015 and later tarmacs according to Specialized and various reviews. Id be afraid to ride that bike as it sits!
That is the latest Tarmac there is.
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Originally Posted by link0 View Post
Giant TCR SLR is up there with the CAAD12 and Emonda ALR for super lightweight alum frames.
Already thought of that since I work at a giant dealer. discontinued and closed out already. They didn't sell well for some reason. There are some on eBay but Id rather get a warranty with my bike.
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Originally Posted by Doge View Post
That is the latest Tarmac there is.
hmmm.... specialized lied to me. what size do you ride?
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Not sure about tire clearance, but you could check out the Jamis Icon series.
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hmmm.... specialized lied to me. what size do you ride?
Size doesn't matter for clearance. That is a 56. Bike is sized a bit too big. It is my son's bike.
He road a Tarmac last year with 26/27 (labeled 25) and they cleared.
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I considered Kinesis, Canyon, and Bowman, in addition to the ones mentioned by OP, when I was in the market. The decision was made for me when my old Cdale broke and Cdale replaced it with a new CAAD10, but I had decided against the three boutique frames just because I wasn't gonna be able to test ride. All look like nice frames, though.
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I considered Kinesis, Canyon, and Bowman, in addition to the ones mentioned by OP, when I was in the market. The decision was made for me when my old Cdale broke and Cdale replaced it with a new CAAD10, but I had decided against the three boutique frames just because I wasn't gonna be able to test ride. All look like nice frames, though.
Kinesis is definitely not boutique. They are one of the largest frame manufacturers in the world and also make frames for several other brands. But yes, the Racelight is not readily available in the US so can't really test ride
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Originally Posted by rms13 View Post
Kinesis is definitely not boutique. They are one of the largest frame manufacturers in the world and also make frames for several other brands. But yes, the Racelight is not readily available in the US so can't really test ride
Canyon probably isn't boutique either. They are being ridden by tour teams and are more common overseas (German, I saw several on streets of UK last time I was there.) I just meant frames one wont readily encounter walking into one's local US LBS.

I also considered the Kinesis Titanium frame but I couldn't afford it or test ride it.
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Canyon probably isn't boutique either. They are being ridden by tour teams and are more common overseas (German, I saw several on streets of UK last time I was there.) I just meant frames one wont readily encounter walking into one's local US LBS.

I also considered the Kinesis Titanium frame but I couldn't afford it or test ride it.
Canyon is supposedly coming to the US but even then I think they are only mail order
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Originally Posted by rms13 View Post
Kinesis is definitely not boutique. They are one of the largest frame manufacturers in the world and also make frames for several other brands. But yes, the Racelight is not readily available in the US so can't really test ride
I agree Kinesis is definitely not a boutique manufacturer, but the KinesisUK frames are hand-made, unique to the KinesisUK brand, and only available in the UK, and marketed to a subset of that vastly smaller market than the USA, so I'd argue it's certainly a "boutique" brand in the common sense of the term. Kinesis are not artisan builders, nor a small manufacturer, though the KinesisUK brand is a small brand.

Anyway, I would not characterize the Racelight 4S as a race frame, at least not a pure race machine. In the Kinesis range, that'd be the Aithein, but it does not accept 28s.
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Does spooky still do a road race bike? I know a guy who has an older one and I really dig it.
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Eddy Merckx Blockhaus 67 ?

25 tyres on the bike.

Granfondocycles in TN has one or more in stock.
You may want to ask them if a 28 fits.
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