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Modern Steel Road Bike Appreciation Thread

Old 08-25-19, 09:14 PM
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"old" ultegra gears??!! Di isn't better, but different, and has been around since '14, no newer than 6800 really.
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Copypaste from the general road bike thread..

Drove about 5 hours to Vancouver BC after 2 months of coordinating with the buyer (he had to drive 5+ hours to Vancouver as well) to get this Pacer. Replaced the stem and bars with some decent Ritchey components that I found used, as well as the seatpost with a Thompson that I snagged for $40. Also swapped out the brakes with a set of Ultegra 6800 caliper brakes that I found at a bike co-op (pricey but worth). Threw on my Brooks as well. Everything else is 90s Campagnolo Veloce, that functions pretty well after replacing cables + housing. The intention was to build up a semi-fast bike for commuting that could handle rain. Really fun bike! Took it on a semi-rainy century yesterday that had a good gravel stretch and everything held together quite well. Hopefully the first of many adventures on this rig

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Originally Posted by RGMN View Post
Here's my Ritchey Road Logic 2.0. Been riding it as my primary road bike for the last 4 seasons. It will need a bit of a refresh this winter - the bars need to be replaced - and it will probably get some new (lighter) wheels, but I'm planning on it being back as my primary road bike next year.
so, what did you replace your wheelset with? I have the same frame, but with Mavic Ksyrium Elites, no idea what a lighter set would feel like.
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Old 09-16-19, 09:45 AM
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a treble clef could never look as good as a bass clef. well done!!
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Old 09-17-19, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by RGMN View Post
Here's my Ritchey Road Logic 2.0. Been riding it as my primary road bike for the last 4 seasons. It will need a bit of a refresh this winter - the bars need to be replaced - and it will probably get some new (lighter) wheels, but I'm planning on it being back as my primary road bike next year.
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so, what did you replace your wheelset with? I have the same frame, but with Mavic Ksyrium Elites, no idea what a lighter set would feel like.
I didn't. The bars and computer were replaced and the camera taken off but circumstances didn't let me do any refreshing of the bike. It's still on the Campagnolo Record/HED Belguim+ wheels in the photo. It will definitely need some refreshing this winter as the bike got pushed into commuter duty after my commuter suffered a cracked chainstay, and that has taken a toll on the wheels, as well as the rest of the drivetrain. Amazing how tough commuting is on a bike.

I really like the HED Belguim+ rims, so I'm thinking of a mild change to DT Swiss 240 hubs with a 24 spoke front and 28 spoke rear. I might go with something like Campag Zonda if finances allow.
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Old 09-17-19, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by RGMN View Post
I didn't. The bars and computer were replaced and the camera taken off but circumstances didn't let me do any refreshing of the bike. It's still on the Campagnolo Record/HED Belguim+ wheels in the photo. It will definitely need some refreshing this winter as the bike got pushed into commuter duty after my commuter suffered a cracked chainstay, and that has taken a toll on the wheels, as well as the rest of the drivetrain. Amazing how tough commuting is on a bike.

I really like the HED Belguim+ rims, so I'm thinking of a mild change to DT Swiss 240 hubs with a 24 spoke front and 28 spoke rear. I might go with something like Campag Zonda if finances allow.
my brother has the HED belgiums, he loves them.

do you commute with out fenders, or do you live in a drier climate? nice commuter, but it would be taking a beating on bad roads. sorry to hear about your other ride's crack, that sucks.
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Old 09-18-19, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by cycledog1 View Post
my brother has the HED belgiums, he loves them.

do you commute with out fenders, or do you live in a drier climate? nice commuter, but it would be taking a beating on bad roads. sorry to hear about your other ride's crack, that sucks.
My fast commuter was a Univega Modo frame (Columbus Thron tubes) that I purchase from someone who converted it to be an "old school" cyclocross bike. I, of course, immediately lost the front fork over a series of moves, so I had a frame with cantilevers on the rear and a carbon fork with a standard road caliper on the front. Looked weird but worked. The bike was in almost continuous use for over 19 years, accumulating almost 60k miles on it. It was a road bike at first, later it became my fast commuter, and it was usually the bike on the trainer. Loved that frame, but I knew the commuting was taking a toll on it. It owes me nothing.

As far as using the Ritchey for commuting, I slap a post mounted rack on the seatpost and off I go. That rack has scratched the heck out of the seat post (no real loss, I really dislike the single bolt clamp and wanted to replace it to get rid of a creak) but the commute includes a couple of miles of crushed limestone trails. Dust from that trail is working its way into everything, and I now need to replace a headset bearing, likely the RD, and I fear it may be getting into the Ergopower shifters as I am starting to have an issue with the left shifter. I have some clip-on fenders that I have used but I find that I get just a messy with them on as without them, and the bike actually seems cleaner without them after riding in the rain, so I just leave them off. And they didn't seem to help with the dust from the trail.

I suspect a Surly Cross-Check will be joining the stable shortly as a commuter.
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Old 10-02-19, 11:25 AM
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New to the forum, hopefully I have enough posts to put up pictures. Here's mine, a Steelman Stage Race built in 2001. Reynolds 853, 60cm s/t and t/t, 72°-ish head and seat tube angles. Dura-Ace 7700 (with Ultegra brakes), Steelman custom 13cm stem, Ritchey bars and Easton seatpost (the Dura Ace one I originally had cracked). Turbomatic4 saddle.



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That's really clean
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I have to admit I'm seriously looking at a steel gravel bike. I have an extra Di2 drivetrain that I can move over pretty quickly. My LBS is an Independent Fabrication dealer so I'm doing some research on that company. I now have a great racing/climbing bike (TCR) and a great aero bike (S3) and they're both two totally different rides and I enjoy each for their own merit. The TCR effectively retired my SuperSix (because it did everything that bike did, only better) and that's where the extra Di2 lives (mounted up on a wall ).

So I've learned my lesson: all of my bikes should be different enough in ride quality/appeal that they don't render others obsolete. A lot of people, not just in this forum but in cycling in general, seem to say that steel is a very different ride-feel from carbon. Couple that with the fact that neither my TCR nor S3 are gravel bikes (I know they can handle gravel but I don't want to submit them to that abuse) and now I'm seriously thinking about Independent Fabrication's Gravel Royale. Will have to do some more research on it, but that could be a nice "kill two birds with one stone" bike: the different ride of steel frames + ability to go gravel and not fear about cracking carbon fiber.

Thoughts?
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Old 10-02-19, 12:48 PM
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I have to admit I'm seriously looking at a steel gravel bike. I have an extra Di2 drivetrain that I can move over pretty quickly. My LBS is an Independent Fabrication dealer so I'm doing some research on that company. I now have a great racing/climbing bike (TCR) and a great aero bike (S3) and they're both two totally different rides and I enjoy each for their own merit. The TCR effectively retired my SuperSix (because it did everything that bike did, only better) and that's where the extra Di2 lives (mounted up on a wall ).

So I've learned my lesson: all of my bikes should be different enough in ride quality/appeal that they don't render others obsolete. A lot of people, not just in this forum but in cycling in general, seem to say that steel is a very different ride-feel from carbon. Couple that with the fact that neither my TCR nor S3 are gravel bikes (I know they can handle gravel but I don't want to submit them to that abuse) and now I'm seriously thinking about Independent Fabrication's Gravel Royale. Will have to do some more research on it, but that could be a nice "kill two birds with one stone" bike: the different ride of steel frames + ability to go gravel and not fear about cracking carbon fiber.

Thoughts?
Cracking carbon fiber shouldn't be a concern, but a nice steel gravel bike would be sweet. If none of your existing bikes can take a 30-ish mm tire, that could be a game changer on pavement, too; I don't think that I'll buy another frame that can't take at least a 28 (and, given the trend, that probably won't be too much of a problem).
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Old 10-02-19, 02:59 PM
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Cracking carbon fiber shouldn't be a concern, but a nice steel gravel bike would be sweet. If none of your existing bikes can take a 30-ish mm tire, that could be a game changer on pavement, too; I don't think that I'll buy another frame that can't take at least a 28 (and, given the trend, that probably won't be too much of a problem).
I know my S3 pretty tops out at 25c, as long as they measure close to spec. I have 25c GP5K TLs on it right now (ENVE SES 5.6 wheels) which measure 25.93mm and there's ample clearance in the back. It came with stock 23c Grand Sport Race which actually measured 25.73 so these new 5K TLs measure much closer to their specs than the GSRs and are essentially the same size.

My TCR came with 25c that measure a bit wide at 26.4mm. I think I've ridden it with my Aeolus Pro 3 wheels on with 28c GP5K TLs on it, which measured 28.81mm, but I don't recall if I measured how much clearance there was between the tire and the narrowest part of the chainstays.

But yes, whatever bike I get next should accommodate at least 30c, if not ideally 32c or larger if it's going to be gravel-focused.
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If it's going to be gravel focused, I'd want it to clear at least 40mm. I'm just saying that gravel bikes typically make for nice endurance road bikes when you take off the big tires and put on something in the 30mm region - a tire that's still fast and relatively light, but affords lower pressures that'll give you a magic carpet ride over shoddy roads that might rattle your fillings, otherwise.
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Originally Posted by mprince View Post
New to the forum, hopefully I have enough posts to put up pictures. Here's mine, a Steelman Stage Race built in 2001. Reynolds 853, 60cm s/t and t/t, 72°-ish head and seat tube angles. Dura-Ace 7700 (with Ultegra brakes), Steelman custom 13cm stem, Ritchey bars and Easton seatpost (the Dura Ace one I originally had cracked). Turbomatic4 saddle.



This bike is suuuper nice.
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Old 10-02-19, 03:25 PM
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I'm definitely feelin' this paint job. Yellow is a tough color to work with. Nice component choice too, 10/10.
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Here's mine, a Steelman Stage Race built in 2001.
Lame chainstay protector, but otherwise it's a nice looking frame.
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Lame chainstay protector, but otherwise it's a nice looking frame.
Thanks, that's been on there a long time, a friend gave it to me as a joke, it's been on so long I don't even notice it. I should really try to take it off but don't want to damage the logo decal under it.

Edit:. With a little assistance from a heatgun, removed the chainstay protector that had been there for at least 16 years. Nice and clean now 👍

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If it's going to be gravel focused, I'd want it to clear at least 40mm. I'm just saying that gravel bikes typically make for nice endurance road bikes when you take off the big tires and put on something in the 30mm region - a tire that's still fast and relatively light, but affords lower pressures that'll give you a magic carpet ride over shoddy roads that might rattle your fillings, otherwise.
If I don't buy a new frame, I'm thinking of turning my Trek FX S6 into a gravel bike. Buy some downtube bike armor to protect against rocks, put on some 35c Panaracer Gravelking SK TLCs and turn it tubeless. 35c is the largest the FX will accept.
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I'm more of a vintage enthusiast, but a modern DiNucci is at the top of my wish list. Every line is perfect to my eyes.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/dinuccicycles/
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Here's modern steel with classic style... the Officina Battaglin 'Marosticana'! I've just about got everything to go on it. Campagnolo Athena 11 speed gruppo and other Italian goodies. Giovanni Battaglin favored white bar tape so that is what this one will get!



I have serial number 2 of 38 for the 'Arena Di Verona 1981' but don't know if it will get built because I like gazing at it too much!
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Here's modern steel with classic style... the Officina Battaglin 'Marosticana'!
Love the seatstay sockets on the lug- similar style to the 2OS Llewellyn lugs.
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I'm more of a vintage enthusiast, but a modern DiNucci is at the top of my wish list. Every line is perfect to my eyes.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/dinuccicycles/
His thin lugs are incredible. The smooth blend from tube to lug is really impressive.
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Originally Posted by mprince View Post
New to the forum, hopefully I have enough posts to put up pictures. Here's mine, a Steelman Stage Race built in 2001. Reynolds 853, 60cm s/t and t/t, 72°-ish head and seat tube angles. Dura-Ace 7700 (with Ultegra brakes), Steelman custom 13cm stem, Ritchey bars and Easton seatpost (the Dura Ace one I originally had cracked). Turbomatic4 saddle.



One of those rare occasions when the tape doesn't quite match the paint or the decals. Falls somewhere between.........Which means it totally goes with both! Very hot!
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Here's modern steel with classic style... the Officina Battaglin 'Marosticana'! I've just about got everything to go on it. Campagnolo Athena 11 speed gruppo and other Italian goodies. Giovanni Battaglin favored white bar tape so that is what this one will get!



I have serial number 2 of 38 for the 'Arena Di Verona 1981' but don't know if it will get built because I like gazing at it too much!
Whoa, that's real purdy! One of those frames that doesn't get built up because you keep stopping and looking at it. And looking some more, and looking some more.
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