Thank God for Shimano and Investing in the Industry
01-30-16, 08:39 AM
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Thank God for Shimano and Investing in the Industry
So I know some of you wait for my threads each day so I thought I would get in early today ...
Whilst I was installing my 5800 Brake set (purchased for $50 shipped from Merlins), I couldn't but help marvel what a great company Shimano is. Not only is the product functionally excellent, looks good they also don't cut corners. The brakes shipped with pads and for the front brake six (6) nuts of various depth. Many other good company (i.e. Apple) will take every opportunity to get a few more dollars out of you and there are loads of companys with really bad products.
I'm guessing Campy are the same based on their wheelset I purchased.
So I'm personally going to toast them at tonight's dinner party but this got me thinking. I know Shimano is a publicly traded company and others in the industry probably are. Does anyone know of an EFT or fund that invests in the bike industry?
A quick Google returns nothing. But I've learnt that investing in high quality company always pays off, perhaps not initially but in the long run.
Whilst I was installing my 5800 Brake set (purchased for $50 shipped from Merlins), I couldn't but help marvel what a great company Shimano is. Not only is the product functionally excellent, looks good they also don't cut corners. The brakes shipped with pads and for the front brake six (6) nuts of various depth. Many other good company (i.e. Apple) will take every opportunity to get a few more dollars out of you and there are loads of companys with really bad products.
I'm guessing Campy are the same based on their wheelset I purchased.
So I'm personally going to toast them at tonight's dinner party but this got me thinking. I know Shimano is a publicly traded company and others in the industry probably are. Does anyone know of an EFT or fund that invests in the bike industry?
A quick Google returns nothing. But I've learnt that investing in high quality company always pays off, perhaps not initially but in the long run.
01-30-16, 08:56 AM
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I would ask why the brakeset was priced at $50 but only from the UK sellers, while buying the same from a US dealer would be over $80 ? Shimano-driven distributorships or some other reason?
01-30-16, 09:09 AM
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Shimano has nothing to do with that. It's the US cycling industry that has the distributor network.
01-30-16, 09:11 AM
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Campy is much better quality. Allen pivot bolts instead of rivets. Alu barrel adjuster instead of plastic. Limit and B screws in a better location. Rebuildable components. Ect, ect, ect. Shimano stuff just looks cheaper. And why is everyone saying "whilst" now?
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Campy is Italian, near the Vatican, so wouldn't God prefer Campy, or are you referring to a Shinto or Buddhist God more common in Japan ??
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What do you mean that the "US cycling industry" has the network? Shimano (and others also) have no pricing control in the US? Or, they choose not to flex their muscles when maybe they should?
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And Athena is 4th tier, below Chorus, Record, Super Record, ... whilst Ultegra is 2nd
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I think Veloce is better quality than Dura Ace, whilst Veloce is the bottom tier and whilst DA is the top. Shimano works fine, if that's what comes on my bike I'll run it. But whilst building a bike up I don't even consider Shimano.
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My Campy Khashim winter wheels are amazing. $140 with G3 spoke pattern and sealed bearings.
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It is more complex than that. Athena is actually third tier. Super Record is functionally the same as Record, just fancier. The two occupy first tier together. At least that is how it has been explained to me.
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It is more complex than that. Athena js actually third tier. Super Record is functionally the same as Record, just fancier. The two are occupy first tier together. At least thst js howbit has been explained to me. And before making comparisons, you might try lining up the two product lines against each other by price. Now how do they compare?
01-30-16, 12:36 PM
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Limit screw location is null, imho
plastic vs aluminum is also subjective, especially if considering plastics like Delrin or Peek.
Nevertheless.......this thread has actually provoked my thought of considering a build with Campy. I'm an Ultegra guy.........Suggestions for an Ultegra equivalent?? (Maybe more in price than quality so I reeeeeally don't regret it if I don't like it)
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Campy is a half tier more expensive. If one thinks that it performs one tier up compared to Shimano, then that would be a bargain, not the opposite. Personally, I think that is BS. Shimano and once again SRAM, now that UK prices have moderated, are the true bargains.
01-30-16, 12:48 PM
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So OP posts about how he likes shimano brakes, and y'all are all talking about who campy RD's may be better? Huh?
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