Yea or Nay: Should I Replace My Current Bike with This Bike
02-02-16, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by emveezee
May be a tangent, but you keep posting photos of your setup. What's your inseam? I think you said you're 6', but I can't imagine that saddle height working for an honest 6'. Photo of you riding?
Originally Posted by Phil_gretz
You have a bike that works. You've admitted to having made bike purchases on which you've later taken losses...
You're asking whether to use restraint here, too. All of the bike banter is just in fun, so...
Have you run the numbers for taking that $2K and putting it in an IRA for tax year 2015 yet? Just an option...
You're asking whether to use restraint here, too. All of the bike banter is just in fun, so...
Have you run the numbers for taking that $2K and putting it in an IRA for tax year 2015 yet? Just an option...
Originally Posted by caloso
That Allez is a really hot bike. If I could justify a bike just for crits, I would be all over it. But even Joe Flatlander needs to ride up a hill every once in awhile so the 1x11 isn't going to do it for me.
(There's a rumor that next year they'll weld a FD boss to the seat tube like any sane person would.)
(There's a rumor that next year they'll weld a FD boss to the seat tube like any sane person would.)
02-02-16, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by SevenTwentyNine
Basically I considering replacing my beloved Madone 2.1 Frame with the Specialized Allez DSW Sprint X1 - keeping the Ultegra gruppo, Zipps, Fizik etc.
I'd appreciate any input, critique, compliment, and insult ... basically I'd just love to hear what you guys have to say about the Allez X1 compared to what I have now or if you have other recommendations - I prefer Aluminum frames generally and I'm not particularly interested in spending more than maaaaaaaaaaybe $2,000 max on a frame.
If you suggest another frame please please please do insert a picture thanks!
I'm not desperate for a new frame or anything and might just stick with what I have but I was eyeing this and want some input from people more experienced than I am.
The bike I have now - please comment:
The bike I'm Thinking About Getting - please comment.
I'd appreciate any input, critique, compliment, and insult ... basically I'd just love to hear what you guys have to say about the Allez X1 compared to what I have now or if you have other recommendations - I prefer Aluminum frames generally and I'm not particularly interested in spending more than maaaaaaaaaaybe $2,000 max on a frame.
If you suggest another frame please please please do insert a picture thanks!
I'm not desperate for a new frame or anything and might just stick with what I have but I was eyeing this and want some input from people more experienced than I am.
The bike I have now - please comment:
The bike I'm Thinking About Getting - please comment.
bikes look too small for you
02-02-16, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by dim
must be hard riding those for a long distance .... I'd get a hunchback
bikes look too small for you
bikes look too small for you
But what if I'm already hunchback haha? Nah seriously this current setup is actually the most comfortable I have. Took almost 6 months of trial and error, saddle up and down, spacers up and down, titling the bars, hoods, everything just to get it dialed in to where it is now
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Looks like long legs, short torso, long arms on a smallish frame---non-standard but people do come in non-standard sizes.
I think what makes sense is wait until the Allez comes out in 2x11, and then buy it and keep both.
I think what makes sense is wait until the Allez comes out in 2x11, and then buy it and keep both.
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Originally Posted by Maelochs
Looks like long legs, short torso, long arms on a smallish frame---non-standard but people do come in non-standard sizes.
I think what makes sense is wait until the Allez comes out in 2x11, and then buy it and keep both.
I think what makes sense is wait until the Allez comes out in 2x11, and then buy it and keep both.
Is there any solid news about a 2x11 coming soon? I spoke to an official Trek Sales Rep, not the LBS but one of those people sent from Wisconsin with their clipboards going around bike shops to make sure Trek is well represented. He told me oh yeah 2016 they're bringing back the full range of Madones.... They killed the very last 7 series this year!!! All we have left is that atrocious 9 series.
02-02-16, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by SevenTwentyNine
Lol I don't specifically post photos of my set up, I just post photos of my bike and people notice the set up. I think I'm 6'0'' well that's according to my drivers license stats which have not been updated since 2007. Maybe I've grown. From boxing I do know I have long arms, did a measurement once and found out they're probably longer than usual for my height (possibly still 6ft).
02-02-16, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by emveezee
Can you at least humor us with the saddle-bb height and you inseam (pbh)? Just takes a tape measure and a book.
Okay okay when I get home from work I'll measure it if I can find my tape measure. In some of my older posts if you can find em I did mention the saddle to bar drop, think it was 14cm or 17cm honestly not sure but it was around that. Besides my setup what do you think of the X1, that's the whole point of the thread not the setup of the bike!
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Originally Posted by SevenTwentyNine
Okay okay when I get home from work I'll measure it if I can find my tape measure. In some of my older posts if you can find em I did mention the saddle to bar drop, think it was 14cm or 17cm honestly not sure but it was around that. Besides my setup what do you think of the X1, that's the whole point of the thread not the setup of the bike!
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Originally Posted by emveezee
Not asking about saddle to bar drop (that's another story). Asking about saddle height from bottom bracket.
FYI I'd still truly like to know what you think about the Allez X1... You know. The whole reason I started this thread.
02-02-16, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by SevenTwentyNine
FYI I'd still truly like to know what you think about the Allez X1... You know. The whole reason I started this thread.
02-02-16, 03:14 PM
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Where I live, 1x11 works great but it's mostly flat or small climbs. I'd use that bike with a 50t ring and a 12-25t cassette.
I'm not judging you, but I do wonder how much time you can spend in the drops.
I'm not judging you, but I do wonder how much time you can spend in the drops.
02-02-16, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by SevenTwentyNine
Basically I considering replacing my beloved Madone 2.1 Frame with the Specialized Allez DSW Sprint X1 - keeping the Ultegra gruppo, Zipps, Fizik etc.
I'd appreciate any input, critique, compliment, and insult ... basically I'd just love to hear what you guys have to say about the Allez X1 compared to what I have now or if you have other recommendations - I prefer Aluminum frames generally and I'm not particularly interested in spending more than maaaaaaaaaaybe $2,000 max on a frame.
If you suggest another frame please please please do insert a picture thanks!
I'm not desperate for a new frame or anything and might just stick with what I have but I was eyeing this and want some input from people more experienced than I am.
The bike I have now - please comment:
The bike I'm Thinking About Getting - please comment.
I'd appreciate any input, critique, compliment, and insult ... basically I'd just love to hear what you guys have to say about the Allez X1 compared to what I have now or if you have other recommendations - I prefer Aluminum frames generally and I'm not particularly interested in spending more than maaaaaaaaaaybe $2,000 max on a frame.
If you suggest another frame please please please do insert a picture thanks!
I'm not desperate for a new frame or anything and might just stick with what I have but I was eyeing this and want some input from people more experienced than I am.
The bike I have now - please comment:
The bike I'm Thinking About Getting - please comment.
02-02-16, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by noodle soup
I'm not judging you, but I do wonder how much time you can spend in the drops.
Originally Posted by surgeonstone
They look exactly the same. Wait a decade or two for some actual differences to develop. You can pretty much be assured of a comparable ride.
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Originally Posted by SevenTwentyNine
Usually anything over 25mph/40kmh and I'm hrading down on the drops.
I race CAT3/Masters. Most times that I'm at that speed it's in a large group, and there's no need to get that low.
I'm not criticizing, but do you need bars that low to get your back flat? My back is flat when in the drops(with a slight bend at the elbow), and I have only a 6" drop to the hoods.
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Originally Posted by noodle soup
I understand, but how often is that?
I race CAT3/Masters. Most times that I'm at that speed it's in a large group, and there's no need to get that low.
I'm not criticizing, but do you need bars that low to get your back flat? My back is flat when in the drops(with a slight bend at the elbow), and I have only a 6" drop to the hoods.
I race CAT3/Masters. Most times that I'm at that speed it's in a large group, and there's no need to get that low.
I'm not criticizing, but do you need bars that low to get your back flat? My back is flat when in the drops(with a slight bend at the elbow), and I have only a 6" drop to the hoods.
So basically the saddle height is for pedaling purposes and would remain constant regardless of what bike I'm on and the bar drop I do because I can and because I like the sharper handling basically.
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Originally Posted by SevenTwentyNine
Hahah no criticism taken. I personally go down on the drops more for control purposes... or rather the feeling of control. I'm sure watt for watt and coefficient of drag v coefficient of drag there's some miniscule benefit compared to before I took off 25mm+ worth of spacers. The steering is more responsive with a shorter fork. Some hate it but I personally don't mind the occasional twitchiness of it. When I really want to get aero it'll probably be on a descent where you'll see me seating on the top tube hugging the frame with my thighs while also on the drops.
So basically the saddle height is for pedaling purposes and would remain constant regardless of what bike I'm on and the bar drop I do because I can and because I like the sharper handling basically.
So basically the saddle height is for pedaling purposes and would remain constant regardless of what bike I'm on and the bar drop I do because I can and because I like the sharper handling basically.
Saddle height is determined by leg length, but that drop looks a little extreme. It's just my opinion, but I doubt that your setup is actually beneficial.
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Originally Posted by noodle soup
It's all good, but I don't need my bars that low to get a flat back.
Saddle height is determined by leg length, but that drop looks a little extreme. It's just my opinion, but I doubt that your setup is actually beneficial.
Saddle height is determined by leg length, but that drop looks a little extreme. It's just my opinion, but I doubt that your setup is actually beneficial.
Well nothing hurts when I ride and there's no real change in my power output when on the bars, hoods, or drop so I think all is a-okay
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Originally Posted by Phil_gretz
You have a bike that works. You've admitted to having made bike purchases on which you've later taken losses...
You're asking whether to use restraint here, too. All of the bike banter is just in fun, so...
Have you run the numbers for taking that $2K and putting it in an IRA for tax year 2015 yet? Just an option...
You're asking whether to use restraint here, too. All of the bike banter is just in fun, so...
Have you run the numbers for taking that $2K and putting it in an IRA for tax year 2015 yet? Just an option...
STP
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Originally Posted by snidely
Keep the Trek.
I actually like the look of the Trek more, myself. Taste aside, I don't know what you'd be gaining with the Spesh.
And just looking at the setup makes my neck hurt!
Oh, to be young and flexible again.STP
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Originally Posted by emveezee
Not asking about saddle to bar drop (that's another story). Asking about saddle height from bottom bracket.
1 - Saddle to BB is 33inches
2 - Saddle to Pedals 40.1inches
Need any other measurements before I end up losing the measuring tape again?
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Other than your seatpost reminds me of the CN Tower, what is the point?
I really dig Treks, even if road bikes aren't my thing and I'd settle for a blue Pure S my LBS has if I had 400 bucks.
Now is a really good time to take the two grand and pay bills, take care of your house and family. Summer will be a different and potentially difficult time for everyone...plan ahead.
I really dig Treks, even if road bikes aren't my thing and I'd settle for a blue Pure S my LBS has if I had 400 bucks.
Now is a really good time to take the two grand and pay bills, take care of your house and family. Summer will be a different and potentially difficult time for everyone...plan ahead.
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Originally Posted by SevenTwentyNine
So better late than never ... I found my measuring tape and measured the bike.
1 - Saddle to BB is 33inches
2 - Saddle to Pedals 40.1inches
Need any other measurements before I end up losing the measuring tape again?
1 - Saddle to BB is 33inches
2 - Saddle to Pedals 40.1inches
Need any other measurements before I end up losing the measuring tape again?
When people see your set-up they picture a rider of generally normal proportions, for which that set-up would be agonizing. If you have unusually long limbs .... or are some other species than **** sapiens ...
Seriously, 40 inches from seat to pedals---a 40" inseam on a guy 72 inches tall? That is not an impossible but it would be an unusual build.
It works for you, so have at it ...
Anyway, stick with the bike you've got and also buy the other. Bu then, you already knew that.
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Originally Posted by Rollfast
Other than your seatpost reminds me of the CN Tower, what is the point?
I really dig Treks, even if road bikes aren't my thing and I'd settle for a blue Pure S my LBS has if I had 400 bucks.
Now is a really good time to take the two grand and pay bills, take care of your house and family. Summer will be a different and potentially difficult time for everyone...plan ahead.
I really dig Treks, even if road bikes aren't my thing and I'd settle for a blue Pure S my LBS has if I had 400 bucks.
Now is a really good time to take the two grand and pay bills, take care of your house and family. Summer will be a different and potentially difficult time for everyone...plan ahead.
