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Need Help Finding an Endurance Bike with Ultegra

Old 02-02-16, 10:01 AM
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Need Help Finding an Endurance Bike with Ultegra

I am looking for a bike with compact chain ring and a large 32-34 in the rear. I need some help getting up big hills
The bike should be CF with Ultegra 6800.

Most endurance type bike that I come across have 105.

Any suggestions.
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That sounds like the hottest bike in the road market right now, I'm surprised you can't find one. I thought Ultegra was quite common.

I was in my nearest LBS a few weeks ago, and my buddy there was praising his new Specialized Diverge with Ultegra. You should look at Specialized, perhaps.
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Trek ALR 6 for $2,199. Relaxed geometry for endurance, full carbon fork, ultegra 6800. I know it's under a "race" category but the fit is H2 which is endurance.

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Originally Posted by exime View Post
Trek ALR 6 for $2,199. Relaxed geometry for endurance, full carbon fork, ultegra 6800. I know it's under a "race" category but the fit is H2 which is endurance.

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thank you.. where did you find the H2 fit rating.. How can I find this on other bikes
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every maker worth his/her salt will have a comfort/endurance bike at that level - Specialized Roubaix, Felt Z series etc
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Originally Posted by kenshireen View Post
I am looking for a bike with compact chain ring and a large 32-34 in the rear. I need some help getting up big hills
The bike should be CF with Ultegra 6800.

Most endurance type bike that I come across have 105.

Any suggestions.
Budget?
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Old 02-02-16, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by kenshireen View Post
thank you.. where did you find the H2 fit rating.. How can I find this on other bikes
The ALR6 has 11-28...
Can I change that out for a 32 in the large cog...will the derailer be able to handle
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Old 02-02-16, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by dbf73 View Post
every maker worth his/her salt will have a comfort/endurance bike at that level - Specialized Roubaix, Felt Z series etc
Yeah. They're all over.

Have you asked the shop if you can order one with Ultegra? Shops might carry the 105 version as it's cheaper and more likely to sell, but be able to order the same bike with Ultegra if you want to buy it.
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Originally Posted by kenshireen View Post
thank you.. where did you find the H2 fit rating.. How can I find this on other bikes
That fit is only Trek's way of classing their own bikes. H1 being more race and H2 more upright.
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Old 02-02-16, 10:46 AM
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I'll put in a plug for Cannondale Synapse. My 2015 Carbon 5 (with 105) had a 30 tooth on it when I got it from the previous owner. Not sure if that der will fit a 32 or 34, that's pretty big. But you could change the rear der.
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Originally Posted by pacalolo View Post
I'll put in a plug for Cannondale Synapse. My 2015 Carbon 5 (with 105) had a 30 tooth on it when I got it from the previous owner. Not sure if that der will fit a 32 or 34, that's pretty big. But you could change the rear der.
More importantly I don't think Shimano has a road cassette with 34t. Ultegra long cage rear derailleur officially supports up to 32t. Could you put a mountain bike cassette on and make it work with 34? Maybe but I wouldn't. Honestly can't imagine needing more than 34/32 gearing to get up any mountain

And yes, every major brand has a carbon endurance bike with Ultegra. Defy would also be a nice choice

https://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-us...specifications
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The Trek Domane, endurance specific frame, with a compact crank and 11-32 cassette would fit the bill.
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Originally Posted by seymour1910 View Post
Budget?
between 1500 and 2000
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Originally Posted by kenshireen View Post
between 1500 and 2000
If Ultegra is a requirement you'll be limited to Performance Bike, mail order like Bikesdirect/Nashbar or building up something with a cheap Chinese frame like I did. Carbon bike with Ultegra from LBS brands are going to be over $2000
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You are in the market for what might be the most popular "serious" road bike on the continent right now. Everybody makes them. Ultegras at $1500 .... maybe, maybe not. In any case, if you get a really good frame and 105 uyou are giving up like 250 grams in weight, next to no performance, and when it is time, you can buy a full Ultegra group for about $500 and have a great bike with Ultegra.

I am a Defy fan because the frame is reputed to be worth a component upgrade, so that's what I would recommend. Get one with 105 and the next better frame instead of a lower-level frame and Ultegra and the bike will suit you many years more .... I think and hope.
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$2K should get you what you want, and most of them will have compacts if not a compact option, but you'll need to swap out the rear cassette most likely. Not that big of a change. You might could maybe get away with a short cage derailleur, but the do make a mid cage for Ultegra, another added expense. If you did the short cage with a 32 tooth, you would have to be VERY careful not to run big-big (cross chaining) or you might have a very expensive problem (lots of broken stuff and a possibly ruined frame if things go really wrong). I would recommend the extra expense of the proper derailleur and would agree that 32 should be the biggest you need.
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Expanding on rms13's post, for under $1700 you can have a full carbon frame, $500 1300-gram carbon wheels, and a full Ultegra group with enough left over to buy a saddle, headset, and cables and all the rest and be down the road with a 17- (or much less) lb. bike the like of which no manufacturer can match for the money.

If you get no pleasure from assembling your own bike and just want to ride, for about the same money you can get an approximately 17-lb. Nashbar carbon bike with a lifetime warranty. it doesn't have flashy designer stickers on the side, but it will ride every bit as well as the bike which cost $1000 more and does have "Trek" or "Felt" or whatever plastered on the down tube.

(https://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Produc...2_-1___204687_) Nashbar CR5 Road Bike--- Often on sale for $1500. The cranks, BB, and brakes are FSA but I see no reason to think these are much less good than Ultegra ... and if you can get in on sale for $1500 or even full-priced at 1800 it is a super deal.

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I say check out performance bike. The Fuji Gran Fondo fits what you're looking for and is within your budget.

Fuji Gran Fondo Classico 1.1 Road Endurance Bike - 2016
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If you can do your own wrenching these two might be good ones. You'll have some money left over.

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Originally Posted by kenshireen View Post
I am looking for a bike with compact chain ring and a large 32-34 in the rear. I need some help getting up big hills
The bike should be CF with Ultegra 6800.

Most endurance type bike that I come across have 105.

Any suggestions.
What kind of big hills are you talking about? A compact with a 28 tooth cassette will get most people up everything except the really nasty stuff.
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Trek Domane 4.5....Comes stock with an 11-32 cassette and compact crank.
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Trek Domane 4.5....Comes stock with an 11-32 cassette and compact crank.
I have ridden with a couple guys who have the 4.5 and love them. It's over the $2K budget and not full Ultegra but the ISO system seems to be the leading technology right now and I like that it's simple but effective. If the OP is willing to stretch the budget the 4.5 would be a great bike.
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What frame size do you need?
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Originally Posted by Maelochs View Post
Expanding on rms13's post, for under $1700 you can have a full carbon frame, $500 1300-gram carbon wheels, and a full Ultegra group with enough left over to buy a saddle, headset, and cables and all the rest and be down the road with a 17- (or much less) lb. bike the like of which no manufacturer can match for the money.

If you get no pleasure from assembling your own bike and just want to ride, for about the same money you can get an approximately 17-lb. Nashbar carbon bike with a lifetime warranty. it doesn't have flashy designer stickers on the side, but it will ride every bit as well as the bike which cost $1000 more and does have "Trek" or "Felt" or whatever plastered on the down tube.

(https://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Produc...2_-1___204687_) Nashbar CR5 Road Bike--- Often on sale for $1500. The cranks, BB, and brakes are FSA but I see no reason to think these are much less good than Ultegra ... and if you can get in on sale for $1500 or even full-priced at 1800 it is a super deal.

I do not work for and am in no way associated with Nashbar and receive no recompense for this post. Nor am I in any way compensated by or affiliated with Workswell, where I would direct you for carbon frames and wheels and sundries.

This Bike from Nashbar is on sale with 25% off...brings the price down to 1350....
What do you think about this...
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Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post
What kind of big hills are you talking about? A compact with a 28 tooth cassette will get most people up everything except the really nasty stuff.
I currently have a 39/53 with a 28 rear.
Will a 34 make that much of a difference
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