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Golfer and Cyclist - a Meeting of the Minds

Old 02-14-16, 07:05 PM
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Golfer and Cyclist - a Meeting of the Minds

Weather was just horrible (by local standards) again today as it was somewhat windy and the noon temperature was something like 29 degrees F. The dreaded polar vortex is back. And it has been like that for several days now.

I tend to wimp out and ride indoors at something like 40 degrees, but I just had to get out for a short ride today. There are a bunch of golf courses in our area, but certainly not a bunch of golfers today (and the courses with bermuda greens were closed). I was riding up a short climb that borders a golf course and a golfer was walking toward me pretty close to the road - maybe 40 feet away when I passed him. He yelled as I went by

"You realize that we are both crazy - right"

A meeting of the minds.

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Old 02-14-16, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveLeeNC View Post
Weather was just horrible (by local standards) again today as it was somewhat windy and the noon temperature was something like 29 degrees F. The dreaded polar vortex is back. And it has been like that for several days now.

I tend to wimp out and ride indoors at something like 40 degrees, but I just had to get out for a short ride today. There are a bunch of golf courses in our area, but certainly not a bunch of golfers today (and the courses with bermuda greens were closed). I was riding up a short climb that borders a golf course and a golfer was walking toward me pretty close to the road - maybe 40 feet away when I passed him. He yelled as I went by

"You realize that we are both crazy - right"

A meeting of the minds.

dave
pretty funny stuff! I will say living in WI I simply can't wait for that 40 degree day where I can get outside on the new bike!!!!
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Old 02-14-16, 11:07 PM
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I'll golf in much colder weather than I'll ride. I'm much warmer without the generated wind and a flask of whiskey seems to work better on foot.
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Old 02-15-16, 03:32 AM
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I grew up playing golf and have played thousands of holes in even freezing weather when almost nobody on the course...waterways frozen...courses technically closed. Ahh...youth.
Game changer is speed on a bike and wind chill...riding in frigid temps versus walking..walking is better. Cold hands + hard ground makes golf challenging in cold weather tho..misses hits hurt more. Best to be a 'picker'...golfers understand.

So.. moved to FL...stopped playing golf in spite of playing a ton in FL when young and now ride everyday.
And yes the cold wind in the winter...like riding into a wall. Small ring and back as flat as possible.

Agree, both crazy...but better crazy than most.

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I'd like to be living somewhere where 40° is considered cold.
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I'd say you are much more committed than him. Any activity you can do while intoxicated isn't much of an activity.
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I've played golf in light snowfall and it was a lot of fun....sure makes getting a line on a putt easy
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Originally Posted by CafeVelo View Post
I'd like to be living somewhere where 40° is considered cold.
It's all relative. My brother spent 20 years in Pennsylvania, but a year in Texas had him wearing long pants and a sweatshirt or jacket in the 60's when he visited home.
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Originally Posted by Jiggle View Post
I'd say you are much more committed than him. Any activity you can do while intoxicated isn't much of an activity.
Now now, let's not be like that.
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Now now, let's not be like that.
Sorry. I was triggered.
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I'd say you are much more committed than him. Any activity you can do while intoxicated isn't much of an activity.
That's similar to my opinion on horseshoes, corn hole, and softball - it's not athletic if you do it while holding a beer.
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Originally Posted by Jiggle View Post
I'd say you are much more committed than him. Any activity you can do while intoxicated isn't much of an activity.
Well .... some folks consider drinking to be an activity ... and I can tell, back in the day i was pretty committed ...


or should have been ....
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Loved the story..thanks
+1, nice to read! Short and sweet.
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Originally Posted by mrodgers View Post
It's all relative. My brother spent 20 years in Pennsylvania, but a year in Texas had him wearing long pants and a sweatshirt or jacket in the 60's when he visited home.
Even as someone who has spent their entire life living in Minnesota, I'll admit that 40F is cold - when it is pouring rain and the wind, at its calmest, is 20MPH like for the 2014 MN Ironman Bike Ride. Ouch. Otherwise that's just the cutoff between knee warmers and insulated tights. I do tip my hat to the people doing the fatbike races here during the 2014/15 winter, a lot of those nights were -20F and normal people have to draw a line somewhere.
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How much warmth is produced by club swinging and walking in golf? I need significantly lighter clothes when cycling in cold weather, compared to walking, so I'm finding it strange that golf would be more comfortable than cycling in cold weather. Is it simply easier to find that right balance between over and underdressing? Honest question, I have zero golfing experience.
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We are surrounded 360 by a golf course. It is only 82 today which is somewhat nice after 90 PHX this weekend. Sick of sun and dry. Going to the snow next week to visit my daughter :-)
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I don't know anything about a meeting of the minds but golf cart drivers shooting across the road without looking makes them crazier than I am, that's for sure.

Something about that cart makes otherwise sensible people do some very stupid things.
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How much warmth is produced by club swinging and walking in golf? I need significantly lighter clothes when cycling in cold weather, compared to walking, so I'm finding it strange that golf would be more comfortable than cycling in cold weather. Is it simply easier to find that right balance between over and underdressing? Honest question, I have zero golfing experience.
The differences as I have experienced them.

The effort level in golf is relatively constant and, more important than this, the apparent wind is far less variable. And the max apparent wind (on the same day) is much less in golf. My face/lips don't go numb on a 30 degree day playing golf, but a different problem riding. And walking/carrying clubs helps to keep you warm to a greater extent than you might expect.

Now on a really cold day a climb up Alpe d'Heuz vs. an hour (or however long that climb would take me) playing golf would strongly favor cycling. But that isn't typical cycling (for me anyway). And if the day also involved lots of descending then things change.

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I don't know anything about a meeting of the minds but golf cart drivers shooting across the road without looking makes them crazier than I am, that's for sure.

Something about that cart makes otherwise sensible people do some very stupid things.
This may be as much fun as I have ever had on a bike. I live in a very 'golfey' small town and golf carts (with minor restrictions) are legal on public roads. I was riding a through street a while back and saw a golf cart not far ahead. I found the right spot (a short climb) and dropped him like a bowling ball

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ps. With a speed limit of 25 mph pretty much all over town, golf carts come pretty close to being just small cars.
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This may be as much fun as I have ever had on a bike. I live in a very 'golfey' small town and golf carts (with minor restrictions) are legal on public roads. I was riding a through street a while back and saw a golf cart not far ahead. I found the right spot (a short climb) and dropped him like a bowling ball

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ps. With a speed limit of 25 mph pretty much all over town, golf carts come pretty close to being just small cars.
I dropped the mail truck yesterday.
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Originally Posted by Fiery View Post
How much warmth is produced by club swinging and walking in golf? I need significantly lighter clothes when cycling in cold weather, compared to walking, so I'm finding it strange that golf would be more comfortable than cycling in cold weather. Is it simply easier to find that right balance between over and underdressing? Honest question, I have zero golfing experience.
Walking and carrying a 30lb bag on your back helps keep nice and warm without generating a full sweat.
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When I was a kid we would ride our bikes to the local par three course towing our clubs in hand carts behind us...
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I'd say you are much more committed than him. Any activity you can do while intoxicated isn't much of an activity.
Millions of baseball fans would disagree...
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Originally Posted by Fiery View Post
How much warmth is produced by club swinging and walking in golf? I need significantly lighter clothes when cycling in cold weather, compared to walking, so I'm finding it strange that golf would be more comfortable than cycling in cold weather. Is it simply easier to find that right balance between over and underdressing? Honest question, I have zero golfing experience.
Walking keeps you fairly warm, but not warm enough to sweat. Riding warms you enough to sweat and then the wind chill you're creating combines with that to make you much colder.

The actual wind is big factor in either case and here it tends to be windy when it's cold (as the cold comes on stiff north winds). 40 when it's sunny calm can be nicer on the golf course than 55 with a 20 mph wind. Riding you create the wind on your own so it's an ever present factor.

I've been golfing all my life. Played in horrific conditions and on closed courses in the winter in the north when I was younger. Now, I don't usually go out if it's colder than 40, but that doesn't happen all that often here. Only been riding about 4 years. I bought colder weather gear at the outset, but dislike riding in the cold enough I seldom use it. However, I found that bike tights under my pants add a tremendous amount of warmth on the golf course.
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My mother's always trying to persuade me to give up rugby and take up golf.

I keep telling her if I ever have 100s or 1000s of $s to spare to buy space age carbon fibre and titanium sporting equipment, it's not going on golf sticks...
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