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Wow, cycling in the wind isn't much fun

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Old 03-19-16, 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by RollCNY
I find wind to be brutal on the single speed, and nerve racking when in groups. But on solo rides with gears, I have found wind to be part of the challenge. I especially like it when it is laden with snow and/or hail.
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Originally Posted by Tycho Brahe
I hate hate hate wind.

I was once talking to a cyclist from the Netherlands and I was telling him that the Netherlands would be a boring place for me to cyclist since I love climbs. The bigger the climb, the better. His response that they had wind to make cycling harder and that it was equivalent to hills. He made cycling in the Netherlands go from bad to worse.
It's called "Dutch Mountains" here. Cycling here is actually fantastic once you get past that, you can ride from one side of the country to the other nearly the entire way on either a dedicated cycle path or a bike lane, without having to fear for your life at every turn or having angry rednecks yelling or throwing things at you.
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Wind, at speed, can be dangerous. Once in a race I was going downhill, probably around 40mph and a truck came up the mountain and as it approached me it blocked the very strong side wind I was fighting. That brief pause in the wind almost caused me to crash. More than one person has been seriously hurt by gusty winds so treat strong winds with respect.
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Originally Posted by Machka
Better wind than hills!
Hills AND headwind at the same time is the worst, which I seemed to get a lot last summer. Honestly I treat any headwind as a hill, just curse to myself and pedal harder..nothing I can do until I turn around :-)
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I prefer climbing over wind. What goes up must come down, and there's nothing better in cycling than a well-earned downhill ride! Not so with headwinds... they always find a way to turn around and STILL be a headwind on your way back. >:-(
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Originally Posted by GreenAnvil
I prefer climbing over wind. What goes up must come down, and there's nothing better in cycling than a well-earned downhill ride! Not so with headwinds... they always find a way to turn around and STILL be a headwind on your way back. >:-(
That's a cute thought, but it isn't really true. It is true that side winds act like headwinds unless they are at a fairly sharp angle behind you. So a side wind can feel like a headwind in both directions your are riding. But if you have a true headwind going one way or one just a bit off angle, and it doesn't change direction, it will be behind you coming back. I demonstrate that on nearly every ride.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
That's a cute thought, but it isn't really true. It is true that side winds act like headwinds unless they are at a fairly sharp angle behind you. So a side wind can feel like a headwind in both directions your are riding. But if you have a true headwind going one way or one just a bit off angle, and it doesn't change direction, it will be behind you coming back. I demonstrate that on nearly every ride.
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Up here you can fairly routinely experience wind direction changes of 90-180* over a day or an afternoon...even without major weather frontal systems plowing through. And being the Great Plains, they ain't gentle ground level breezes either.
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Oh, c'mon Robert! Everyone knows that Mr. Wind has a personality of his own, weather forecast be darned. He's out to torture and frustrate you... I've heard him laugh as I just spin in place, hardly moving forward. There's no scientific explanation... Mr. Wind just is....
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Old 03-19-16, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Marcus_Ti
Emphasis added.

Up here you can fairly routinely experience wind direction changes of 90-180* over a day or an afternoon...even without major weather frontal systems plowing through. And being the Great Plains, they ain't gentle ground level breezes either.
Agree it's common around here for the wind to change during the course of a day's ride. I prefer to start the ride with a tailwind. At least that way I'm guaranteed to have a tailwind for a portion of the ride.
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I'm also here in eastern Pa, and on yesterday's 28 mile ride I was actually and literally moved sideways by almost a foot on a gust. SCARY AS HELL.
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High winds provide the opportune time for better hill training here in flat-land SW FL. 103 miles today with 250' of climbing because I went over 2 small canal bridges and 2 Intracoastal Waterway bridges. Riding into the wind in a 53/12 combo while standing for 2 to 3 mile sections holding 14/17mph is very helpful. Recently we have had 20mph to 30mph winds providing great training rides, very enjoyable! I have Six Gap later in the year with 103 miles and 11,000'+ of climbing so I can use all the wind Mother Nature can muster.
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Cold and 20 mph winds today.

Did 13 miles, feels like 30 ...
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The wind does not blow it sucks. One nice thing about training with power is at a the end of a demoralizing up wind ride you can post some big numbers. At least I do.
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Originally Posted by Machka
Better wind than hills!
No way. I actually enjoy hills in some strange way.
Wind? You can have it.
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Originally Posted by Machka
Better wind than hills!
I would give up cycling if I could not do hills. What's the point? Not only do you not get a good challenging workout, but you miss out on the downhill as well.
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My first power meter ride today confirms just how much it sucks. 465w just to make 17mph into the headwind today. Ouch. Although, my meter is still settling a little bit, so it might not have been that bad.
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Originally Posted by mercator
That's why I like aero front wheels.
When I have my head down, grinding away, feeling like I'm hardly moving I tell myself it would be worse if that thing I was looking at had 32 round spokes and then I feel much better.
<sarcasm>Yeah, that 1 - 2W savings from bladed spokes makes all the difference in the word.</sarcasm>
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I look at it this way: if you have a there-and-back route, then the headwind becomes a tailwind on the way back, which makes the net effect of wind zero. This works on hills, too.
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Originally Posted by Tycho Brahe
I would give up cycling if I could not do hills. What's the point? Not only do you not get a good challenging workout, but you miss out on the downhill as well.
Fun fact: you can get a challenging workout without hills.
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Originally Posted by shafter
I look at it this way: if you have a there-and-back route, then the headwind becomes a tailwind on the way back, which makes the net effect of wind zero. This works on hills, too.
I'm not so sure about that. The wind giveth and the wind taketh away but IMO it takes more than it gives so actually it's a net negative. That being said riding with a stiff tailwind is a blast.
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It's a little optimistic, but nice to think about when riding.
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A headwind is a never ending hill with no soul.
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There used to be a train ride heading west, for $20 you got to travel 125 km one way with the bike in the baggage car. We would wait for a wind forecast of >40kph from the west and take the trip. Once I got to ride without unclipping with a steady 50 kph tailwind for 2 1/2 hours. That was a good day.
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Embrace the suck
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