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Wow, cycling in the wind isn't much fun

Old 03-21-16, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Stratocaster View Post
I have today and the next 4 days off from work. Here in eastern PA, today is the best of the bunch - supposed to be partly sunny and in the upper 50's. The other 4 days is forcasted to be around 40 degrees, with possible snow on Sunday.
Anyway, I decided to head out today and get on the bike to get some exercise.
...but there's a nasty, gusty wind howling - up to 30 mph - but it seems to be blowing constantly at least at 15-20 mph.

That is NOT fun, and I have pretty low-profile wheels. I was being blown around - and with all the howling it was basically impossible to hear any vehicles approaching from behind.

I guess it's back to the trainer for another week until I'm off from work again...hopefully the weather will be nicer.

Yes, I'm a fair-weather cyclist.
If you live on the flats, wind is your hills/mountain so i have come to love it. Headwind is the best.
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Old 03-21-16, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by TexMac View Post
If you live on the flats, wind is your hills/mountain so i have come to love it. Headwind is the best.
I like the wind most of the time, but there are times (gusts at 45mph whipping up leaves from last year's corn like flying razor blades...) when it just sucks all the fun out of it. It is kind of funny to be working as hard as you can to just stay at 10mph downhill into those same gusts.

Crosswinds gusts are awful, though. It's one thing to lean the bike, it's another to constantly wrestle it into position when the wind is all over the place. I don't think I use the muscles required for that enough, and it is really fatiguing.
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Old 03-21-16, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by FBinNY View Post
Wind is just another thing to live with as a cyclist. Steady winds are a royal pain for the obvious reason, and high winds can be torture. But gusty winds especially form the side are in a class all by themselves. They make holding your line extremely difficult if not impossible. But, as I said, it's just something else to adapt to and live with.
I agree. Gusty winds suck. Hills with sidewinds are tough too. It helps your endurance though. I stopped to take a picture from a bridge and was afraid my smartphone was going to blow away. I still have it )
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Old 03-21-16, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by DNT View Post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHsTn7ketto

This is WINDY, the fun starts around the 3:30 mark
HA. shoulda bought a steel bike!
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Old 03-21-16, 11:57 AM
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I posted this on another thread but maybe it will get some traction here. Is this wishful Strava added ****ion a pipe dream or am i overthinking it.

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Old 03-22-16, 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by K.Katso View Post
It's called "Dutch Mountains" here. Cycling here is actually fantastic once you get past that, you can ride from one side of the country to the other nearly the entire way on either a dedicated cycle path or a bike lane, without having to fear for your life at every turn or having angry rednecks yelling or throwing things at you.
Maybe I was wrong about the Netherlands: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEON08d76oE
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Old 03-22-16, 03:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Tycho Brahe View Post
Maybe I was wrong about the Netherlands: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEON08d76oE
That's a pretty dumb video. It's not like that anywhere except in the center of Amsterdam. Since you've obviously already made up your mind, I won't try to convince you. I'll just leave you with some photos of what the cycling infrastructure looks like everywhere else.







"Bike street: Car is guest"


(and there are no stupid speed limits for bikes on any of these paths, and they are first and foremost BIKE paths, not "MUPs," so you don't have to worry about joggers or dog walkers everywhere)
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Old 03-22-16, 10:48 AM
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^^^ That's really nice! Is it that way across the whole country? Wished we had that level of cycling infrastructure here in the US.
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Old 03-22-16, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by K.Katso View Post
That's a pretty dumb video. It's not like that anywhere except in the center of Amsterdam. Since you've obviously already made up your mind, I won't try to convince you. I'll just leave you with some photos of what the cycling infrastructure looks like everywhere else.







"Bike street: Car is guest"


(and there are no stupid speed limits for bikes on any of these paths, and they are first and foremost BIKE paths, not "MUPs," so you don't have to worry about joggers or dog walkers everywhere)
dang that makes me jelous. looks way nicer than the crappy roads around here with tons of red necks and bad drivers
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Old 03-22-16, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by K.Katso View Post
That's a pretty dumb video. It's not like that anywhere except in the center of Amsterdam. Since you've obviously already made up your mind, I won't try to convince you. I'll just leave you with some photos of what the cycling infrastructure looks like everywhere else.
Just like the video, it was a joke.
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Old 03-22-16, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by VCSL2015 View Post
I posted this on another thread but maybe it will get some traction here. Is this wishful Strava added ****ion a pipe dream or am i overthinking it.

You're overthinking it. Basically you're looking for point data on weather/wind conditions on any given ride, right? So you can look at a given effort on a segment and know exact windspeed/direction?

I'm sure it would be easy for Strava to link general weather data for a given day to every ride, but that information usually comes from TV station buildings or airports or whatever, it's just a few locations in any given area. Winds can shift and gust so just knowing the current conditions doesn't really tell you everything you'd want to know. Too many variables.
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Old 03-22-16, 12:10 PM
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My racing days riding out of Boston, I used to check the weather on stormy days, pick a town 50 miles upwind and ride my fix gear there for lunch. Turn around and spin home. Not a lot of fum but really good core training. (Set the bike up with something like a 42-17, shallow rim wheels and low, long reach handlebars. And take the mindset, this is basic boot camp training. It will pay off big time.

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Old 03-22-16, 01:07 PM
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Winds are 25-35 mph sustained, gusting to 50 mph today.

It's the uphill climb with that headwind that brought the suck to me. I get to have an extra glass of milk today.
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Old 03-22-16, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan333SP View Post
You're overthinking it. Basically you're looking for point data on weather/wind conditions on any given ride, right? So you can look at a given effort on a segment and know exact windspeed/direction?

I'm sure it would be easy for Strava to link general weather data for a given day to every ride, but that information usually comes from TV station buildings or airports or whatever, it's just a few locations in any given area. Winds can shift and gust so just knowing the current conditions doesn't really tell you everything you'd want to know. Too many variables.
I have kind of wondered whether or not they could correlate the wind speed at a specific location for your area. Like you said, they're really too far apart to get anything exact, but if you could give it a weighted number in the power estimate, it might take a small step toward making their data a little closer to reality.
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You can always just assume tailwinds when you see something like this. Out and back route I rode last summer in the Outer Banks. Totally flat, only one road that runs due north/south so if you have a headwind on one leg, you will have a tailwind on the other. No prizes awarded for guessing which half of the ride had a tailwind.

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Old 03-22-16, 01:56 PM
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If it weren't for tailwinds, I'd have no Strava KOMs at all.
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Cool for straight stretches. Not cool for windy, hilly stretches. The dream scenario would be it could show you the exact wind directions during your route. It could obviously be a good indicator for determining reoccurring wind patterns, but I would love to use it for documentation as i wrote previously. Ok, I'm looking back in my calendar looking at climbs, etc. Timing has a lot to do with weather conditions ie, if your experiencing heavy wind your time will be slower than on a non windy day. As a pastime I enjoy looking at the various trophies I get in Strava for time on routes I take. Not factored into this are weather patterns like wind directions. I have a hard time remembering what i had for dinner the previous day, so this would be a great tool for me. ( i can understand and have accepted from responses this is impossible to do though) ugh.


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You can always just assume tailwinds when you see something like this. Out and back route I rode last summer in the Outer Banks. Totally flat, only one road that runs due north/south so if you have a headwind on one leg, you will have a tailwind on the other. No prizes awarded for guessing which half of the ride had a tailwind.

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The stretch of road where I do intervals is along the coast and totally exposed to the wind. When I checked before I went out yesterday the wind direction was an almost dead on tail or headwind depending on the direction of riding at 18 mph. I did a comparison yesterday of doing an interval workout alternating repeats with a tailwind and into a headwind. I tried to stay within a 10 watt swing in zone 5 and maintain a cadence of at least 80 and not be concerned with speed. I managed to do it but when I checked out the stats later the difference in speed was striking - from 27mph to 15mph with almost identical wattage. Bonus - I had 2 Strava PR's.
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I live in a mountainous area and here there almost a wind gust everyday and since I ride my bike everywhere I go I get to have fun in the wind constantly. Im not currently riding a road bike either. What I am using is a mountain bike as a commuter with big knobby tires so that's definitely not helping any. To make things worse to get to work I have to pedal the whole time against the wind for 7 miles up hills and one flat the entire time.

So to sum everything up I think of the wind as a training exercise that builds up the strength in my legs. I do not even think too much about the wind anymore these days and even effortlessly pass other bikers and on those nice days with no wind at all I constantly max out my drive-train and can really move now. Now all I can think of is how much faster I will be going once I get a proper bike as commuter/fitness bike with low rolling resistance tires will be coming very soon and I am looking forward to that day too.
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I love hills, and I hate wind. The one a worthy goal, the other a fickle mistress...
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So this concept could be a cool way for you to track weather conditions around you and could integrate with Strava

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...a?ref=category
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