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Pinarello Dogma Fake? Too good to be true?

Old 03-18-16, 04:34 PM
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Pinarello Dogma Fake? Too good to be true?

Hi can anyone help? I have come across this dogma 60.1 and it seems too good to be true. I am worried this is. It a genuine pinarello. Anyone have any thoughts on this? I think it is a fair few years old. Cheers. Mark.
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Old 03-18-16, 05:02 PM
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what make you think it's a fake? You didn't include the price tag so we have no point of reference...
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Thanks for your message bigdo13. It is £970 frames etc but I can't find other pictures online that show the exact same set up. Dogma 60.1 so a few years old.
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High chance of being fake. Don't risk it.
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The most counterfeited frame in the world. I would never buy one used because of that
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The most counterfeited frame in the world. I would never buy one used because of that
Ugliest too.
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Originally Posted by Homebrew01 View Post
Ugliest too.
+1. I will never understand why people like that shape. If I saw that bike in the wild I'd put it out of its misery, to save the bike-frame gene pool.
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Thanks for your message bigdo13. It is £970 frames etc but I can't find other pictures online that show the exact same set up. Dogma 60.1 so a few years old.
there are ways of making sure that they're authentic, but really, man, at the end of the day, it's all about how the bike feels.. go take it out for a good ride before you buy... if it feels right, and handles right, than what's the big deal even if it is fake?... plenty of people I know and I myself have ridden and still ride replica Chinese bikes and the idea that they're somehow more dangerous is silly... they're fine and perform very well... and for a full carbon setup like that, that pricetag isn't bad at all, damn good really. But don't take my word, there's quite a good deal of YouTube videos with owners of Chinarello's and other "fake" carbon frames from China singing their praises. Look at Jon Woolhouse's video's, he own's 3 Dogma's and has never had a problem with any of them.

if you're dead set on a real one than go to an actual Pinarello retailer and shell out the $8,000+ dollars for a real one. that's how you can be sure it's real. If you don't really care and want a bike that rides within 20% of what the real one can, at a third of the cost, go for this one.. I guarantee when you're out riding and enjoying it, you won't regret that it isn't a proper, "real" Dogma... Also, I'll remind you that many of the Italian carbon bikes are now mass-produced in the same chinese factories as the "real" ones are due to demand.

It's up to you what you do, but, forgive the pun, don't be frightened by the "Dogma" around chinese replica frames... they're fine, and they won't just magically explode while you're riding them. They aren't the real frames, no, but they're decent...

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Old 03-19-16, 05:22 AM
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Check the serial number with Pinarello, they should be able to tell you if it's a Chinarello or not.
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From the one picture all seems good. Italian Threaded BB. Front derailer mount rivets are black which they should be. Serial number should be on bottom of BB and should be serial number with a bar code. Go to Pinarello.com and plug in the number with the serial number registry to see if the SN# is legit.
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That's the only way to do it. My neighbors with high end bikes said the Manufacturers are all over this and are very helpful.
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