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Chinarello build (dhgate)

Old 03-04-20, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by tagaproject6 View Post
Because they can. It's a sticker, not proof of authenticity. Some people's feelings get hurt about it, some people don't care. Which one are you?
Are those the only two choices?
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Old 03-04-20, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by noodle soup View Post
I’ve seen some of these counterfeit bikes with decals that actually said “Chinarello”.
A Chinarello sticker would be much more appealing.
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Old 03-04-20, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by WhyFi View Post
Are those the only two choices?
+1. Why can’t we just not GAF?

I’m not gonna buy/ride a counterfeit Pinarello, but I don’t care what anyone else does.
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Originally Posted by Camilo View Post
I just think it's funny to fake something like that. If you do it, to me there's no question you're trying to impress someone that you have something you don't have. Pure vanity.

If our when I buy a generic frame, I'd have some nice personal custom stickers, not something that is fake.

Jmho of course. I hope that answers your question.
It won't affect those that don't care. The vain ones usually care about others' vanity themselves.
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yeah .... there is a local homeless guy with a Mercedes star on the front of his shopping cart ... I am planning to sue him on behalf of Mercedes owners everywhere. This stuff matters, dammit.

Having a pretty bike which you love to ride means Nothing! The labels on the hubs Must be properly oriented.
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Old 04-11-21, 08:41 AM
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She went on a diet:
1x Sram Red cranks w/ Wolf Tooth 50t chainring
6800 brake calipers
knockoff carbon Power saddle
11-25 Sroad cassette
PYC SP1101 chain
16.8 lbs in a size 58
5 years old, fake af and STILL going strong
s://i.imgur.com/e795AHV.jpg

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Old 04-11-21, 10:46 AM
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I'm happy for anyone with a great bike at a good price. Here's why I would never personally buy one: https://www.hambini.com/ More to the point would be the videos Hambini posts on YouTube. If you haven't seen his channel I can promise some real bike geek entertainment. He is an engineer that makes bottom brackets and other (?) parts. Folks regularly send their bikes to him with BB problems and occasionally he has the bikes scanned and can "see" where there are voids in the layup. He points out the very real problems with many frames from current manufacturers and has on more than one occasion had to shake his head and pronounce how he would not feel safe riding a bike due to manufacturing defects. The precision needed to align the bottom bracket holes that receive the BB is really quite high and difficult to replicate from bike to bike. No doubt some Chinese frames are decent and no doubt the quality control and engineering tolerances on much less expensive bikes can't be as high as they are with bikes costing $10,000. Or so I assume. It's for that reason I would rather ride a $2500 medium spec'd Trek or Specialized than a $1500 Chinese frame with a better group. No criticism for those that choose otherwise but I think it is a bit more of a risk and choose not to go that way. I would love to see somebody (not me!) buy ten Chinese frames and ten frames straight from the manufacturer and cut them up and look them over with a fine tooth comb. I am sure they would show differences but I wonder if they would be such that the safety of the Chinese bikes would come into question, which is my basic concern.
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Originally Posted by digibud View Post
I'm happy for anyone with a great bike at a good price. Here's why I would never personally buy one: https://www.hambini.com/ More to the point would be the videos Hambini posts on YouTube. If you haven't seen his channel I can promise some real bike geek entertainment. He is an engineer that makes bottom brackets and other (?) parts. Folks regularly send their bikes to him with BB problems and occasionally he has the bikes scanned and can "see" where there are voids in the layup. He points out the very real problems with many frames from current manufacturers and has on more than one occasion had to shake his head and pronounce how he would not feel safe riding a bike due to manufacturing defects. The precision needed to align the bottom bracket holes that receive the BB is really quite high and difficult to replicate from bike to bike. No doubt some Chinese frames are decent and no doubt the quality control and engineering tolerances on much less expensive bikes can't be as high as they are with bikes costing $10,000. Or so I assume. It's for that reason I would rather ride a $2500 medium spec'd Trek or Specialized than a $1500 Chinese frame with a better group. No criticism for those that choose otherwise but I think it is a bit more of a risk and choose not to go that way. I would love to see somebody (not me!) buy ten Chinese frames and ten frames straight from the manufacturer and cut them up and look them over with a fine tooth comb. I am sure they would show differences but I wonder if they would be such that the safety of the Chinese bikes would come into question, which is my basic concern.


Hambini is a quack.
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Originally Posted by espi-JG View Post
She went on a diet:
1x Sram Red cranks w/ Wolf Tooth 50t chainring
6800 brake calipers
knockoff carbon Power saddle
11-25 Sroad cassette
PYC SP1101 chain
16.8 lbs in a size 58
5 years old, fake af and STILL going strong
s://i.imgur.com/e795AHV.jpg
It's a shame they didn't have a 61cm frameset.
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If someone wants to buy a generic frame go for it...whatever it is your choice but why in the hell would you put fake stickers on it to portray It as something it is not? If you really want to put stickers put these on there: https://www.usflags.com/china-flag-decal-sticker.html and make it authentic!
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Hambini is a quack.
I'm not an engineer so maybe you can explain your accusation?
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It's great to see someone who can build their own bike from cheap frame purchases & make the complete bike last for over 5 years.
Regardless of where the frame came from, bike looks nice, seems to be a good purchase for whatever type of riding that you do; those naysayers are just jealous.

I've built over a dozen complete bikes from cheap Chinese carbon frames in the last 4-5 years, most of them for customers or friends.
I've kept three of them for myself to ride, I don't expect these Chinese frames to perform as carbon frames that cost 5 or 10 times more.
I'm not racing anymore, I'm not cranking out 700w output sprints like I used to and I know how to stay within the performance parameters when I ride these frames.
None of the bikes with Chinese carbon frames I built have suffered any catastrophic failure.
For casual group, club type riding, these frames perform just fine for me, just not for everyone.

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Hambini (who has been called a quack here for as yet no apparent reason) discusses the engineering of a Chinese brand frame, a Trifox X10 and found it to be of very high quality, better in many respects that some much more expensive famous brands. Here's the link.
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Originally Posted by digibud View Post
I'm happy for anyone with a great bike at a good price. Here's why I would never personally buy one: https://www.hambini.com/ More to the point would be the videos Hambini posts on YouTube. If you haven't seen his channel I can promise some real bike geek entertainment. He is an engineer that makes bottom brackets and other (?) parts. Folks regularly send their bikes to him with BB problems and occasionally he has the bikes scanned and can "see" where there are voids in the layup. He points out the very real problems with many frames from current manufacturers and has on more than one occasion had to shake his head and pronounce how he would not feel safe riding a bike due to manufacturing defects. The precision needed to align the bottom bracket holes that receive the BB is really quite high and difficult to replicate from bike to bike. No doubt some Chinese frames are decent and no doubt the quality control and engineering tolerances on much less expensive bikes can't be as high as they are with bikes costing $10,000. Or so I assume. It's for that reason I would rather ride a $2500 medium spec'd Trek or Specialized than a $1500 Chinese frame with a better group. No criticism for those that choose otherwise but I think it is a bit more of a risk and choose not to go that way. I would love to see somebody (not me!) buy ten Chinese frames and ten frames straight from the manufacturer and cut them up and look them over with a fine tooth comb. I am sure they would show differences but I wonder if they would be such that the safety of the Chinese bikes would come into question, which is my basic concern.
You do realize he makes money from views. He gets views a lot more easily by trash talking than sweet talking. No one in the industry takes him seriously. His BB may be good quality, but his comments on e.g. voids are ridiculous. As are the bikes he gets, of course he only receives the ones with problems, not the ones that work.
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