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Testament to helmets!

Old 03-22-16, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by exmechanic89 View Post
Armchair quarterbacking a crash you werent personally there for seems kind of inane as you dont know exactly what happened. Glad you're ok OP. Seeing stories like this make me glad I always ride with a helmet on..
Totally get that. And it's quite possible, greatest bike handler would have still crashed under the circumstances.

Point I raised is tha the OP's description blaming it on overuse of front brake is incorrect, and some learning how to use the front brake would be helpful.
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Old 03-22-16, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ltxi View Post
Why the hell so many beating on the OP over his one off/just needed at the moment braking technique??

I have no idea what this cycling obsession over front brake uber alles is. I learned the value of trail braking in Race Car/Motorcycle 101 over 50 years ago.
Because his post was reading as PSA and missing the point.

Better question is what is trail braking has anything to do with OP situation. He crashed in a straight line not braking up to the apex.

P.S. Trail braking is usually done with front brake. Rear can be used to step out a wheel a bit. Unless we are talking about dirt bikes/flat track, and we are not.
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Old 03-22-16, 11:10 PM
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Hey man, good on you for singing the praises of a helmet. Hopefully it reaches someone here to give thought about that melon shield next time. Lol at all the experts on here telling him to learn how to use brakes. As if by doing everything absolutely perfect on the road means you have zero percent chance of getting into some kind of accident still. How about just give advice when it's asked for... because like, that's just good form.
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Old 03-22-16, 11:37 PM
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I only started wearing a helmet because my wife insisted.

But now I've accepted the helmet as part of the kit. No... no one needs any of the bicycle accessories like clipless, or spandex. But all this stuff adds to the enjoyment of cycling. And..... I have also bounced my helmet on pavement. It can make a believer out of anyone.
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Old 03-23-16, 05:02 AM
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Old 03-23-16, 05:15 AM
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So this is going well.
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Old 03-23-16, 05:41 AM
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A helmet is one of those things that is better to have and not need than to need and not have.
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Old 03-23-16, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by UmneyDurak View Post
Because his post was reading as PSA and missing the point.

Better question is what is trail braking has anything to do with OP situation. He crashed in a straight line not braking up to the apex.

P.S. Trail braking is usually done with front brake. Rear can be used to step out a wheel a bit. Unless we are talking about dirt bikes/flat track, and we are not.
You and I are using different definitions of trail braking.
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Old 03-23-16, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ltxi View Post
You and I are using different definitions of trail braking.
I am curious. What is your definition of trail braking?
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Old 03-25-16, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by UmneyDurak View Post
I am curious. What is your definition of trail braking?
Rear brake in first/bias. Hard front is a good thing if needed but at least some rear early stabilizes the vehicle/keeps the back end in line.

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Old 03-25-16, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by martslc View Post
Yes you are correct but sometimes you just don't have time to shift your weight. In fact I dont even remember the pothole or braking but it had to be the combination of not seeing it and not reacting correctly.
I learned the hard way after a similar crash, except I wasn't wearing a helmet. $5000 in bills (mostly dental, since I had medical but not dental insurance) later, I actively practice panic stops occasionally so that it becomes second nature. I also don't remember the exact circumstances of my crash but it involved high speed, a panic situation, inexperience, and ultimately, going over the bars. Glad to hear you're ok and take it as a learning experience.

Most importantly, is the bike OK???
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Old 03-25-16, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug View Post
So this is going well.
Oh, really you think?
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Old 03-26-16, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by whosmatt View Post
I learned the hard way after a similar crash, except I wasn't wearing a helmet. $5000 in bills (mostly dental, since I had medical but not dental insurance) later, I actively practice panic stops occasionally so that it becomes second nature. I also don't remember the exact circumstances of my crash but it involved high speed, a panic situation, inexperience, and ultimately, going over the bars. Glad to hear you're ok and take it as a learning experience.

Most importantly, is the bike OK???

Thanks and thatís a real bummer for you. Iím impressed youre back out riding after the sounds of it. There were a few things that played into the wreck. New Saddle position, I had flipped my stem making my lean lower over the bars much more and that I was super, super tired at that point. Not to mention I had only ridden this race geometry bike verses my old touring bike geometry I had previously owned a few hours. All I remember is I was caught in a changing stoplight so I made a sprint to get through. Glad your back out there be safe!
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Old 03-26-16, 09:13 AM
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Dismiss the chatter and keep on riding.
Glad to hear you're doing well....gives me reason to keep strapping on the lid everyday.
Have a good weekend!
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Old 03-26-16, 09:24 AM
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Good on ya --- glad you followed a bit of a concussion protocol too--

yes, some crashes are unavoidable. I took a massive digger 2 years ago when a cartridge bearing in my front hub froze jerking my handlebars abruptly to the left- my momentum folded the front wheel like a taco as i went over the bars.
Who would have thought a single cartridge bearing could freeze that hard without advance notice. The hub was a boutique high dollar affair from a famous maker
Since then i have only used standard cup/cone hubs from Shimano or Campagnolo when building wheels from scratch
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Old 03-26-16, 09:25 AM
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So much Captain Obvious in this thread. Lol.
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Old 03-28-16, 12:34 AM
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If you really got knocked out, then you were concussed, which means you are still concussed, whether you realize it yet or not. Get some rest, avoid high-risk behavior for a while. You do NOT want to stack concussions!!
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Old 03-28-16, 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Tycho Brahe View Post
All helmets, cheap or not, are regulated by the US govt and are meant to work as designed. Expensive helmets primarily give you better weight and airflow, not safety.
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This isn't true now that MIPS is out.
Yes, it's still true. Non-MIPS helmets still meet standards, though MIPS helmets exceed those standards. Also, unless there's something I don't know about MIPS, an $80 MIPS helmet should probably protect as well as a $300 MIPS helmet, no?
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Old 03-28-16, 05:30 AM
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How did this thread get in the 41? I thought we discuss this stuff behind closed doors, and for good reason.

OP, glad you're ok. Go buy a new helmet.
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Old 03-28-16, 12:00 PM
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Glad you're ok! My helmet saved my brain as well when I was hit by a car going in the same direction as I was. I don't even remember the accident at all. One minute I was biking, and the next, I was waking up in the emergency room after being unconscious for about 3 hours. Weirdest experience ever.

The crunched side of my helmet where it hit the pavement could have been the crunched side of my head. Thank God.

Once again, I'm glad you're ok.

Everybody, please seriously consider wearing a helmet (at least when you're riding with traffic).
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Old 03-28-16, 12:45 PM
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Helmets?

We don't need no stinkin' helmets..




Where's my pudding?
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Old 04-04-16, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by drummergeek View Post
Glad you're ok! My helmet saved my brain as well when I was hit by a car going in the same direction as I was. I don't even remember the accident at all. One minute I was biking, and the next, I was waking up in the emergency room after being unconscious for about 3 hours. Weirdest experience ever.

The crunched side of my helmet where it hit the pavement could have been the crunched side of my head. Thank God.

Once again, I'm glad you're ok.

Everybody, please seriously consider wearing a helmet (at least when you're riding with traffic).
Thanks glad it worked out for you. I got out on my bike for the first time Sat. and it was like I was trying to learn how to ride a race geometry bike all over again. Mess my mind up pretty good. I don't remember anything about going down and what happened at all. I just know I had road rash all over, badly brushed, torqued ankle that is black and blue and a torn should rotor cuff.

Are you out riding again?
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Old 04-04-16, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by martslc View Post
Holla-loo-yuh someone who doesn't think I was just stuppid and even if I was... I think that the lesson learned taught me much better then the "Admonition Patrol". It was about helments and why I think I might of crashed. (Never even seen the pothole due to some other reasons not explained).
than

Glad you are OK. Thanks for sharing your story.
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Originally Posted by melloveloyellow View Post
Helmets?

We don't need no stinkin' helmets..




Where's my pudding?
If you don't eat your meat, you don't get........
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Originally Posted by martslc View Post
Thanks glad it worked out for you. I got out on my bike for the first time Sat. and it was like I was trying to learn how to ride a race geometry bike all over again. Mess my mind up pretty good. I don't remember anything about going down and what happened at all. I just know I had road rash all over, badly brushed, torqued ankle that is black and blue and a torn should rotor cuff.

Are you out riding again?
Yes, definitely riding again. I think I was off the bike for a month or so while my shoulder began to heal. When the shoulder pain was small enough that I could use my right arm for a little support on an upright (mountain bike) I started riding around the neighborhood again, because I missed riding so much.

My wife and family (mom and brothers) thought I was nuts. Start slow and take it easy. Don't give up biking if you love it! I was noticeably skittish riding in traffic again, but just be patient, and get yourself used to traffic again, a little at a time.

After another month, I was on my road bike again, biking to work every day. (15 miles one way).

Just be careful and aware out there, and be sure to learn any lessons that you can from your previous accident.

Take care man.
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