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Testament to helmets!

Old 03-21-16, 12:56 PM
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Testament to helmets!

This is a cheap helmet but it saved me some serious issues if not death!! I was knocked out cold after hitting a pothole using front brake to much. Back brake was feeling iffty and was heading home after an attempt to fix it. Please lets us all be super careful and make sure your helmet is on properly.

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... and learn to use front brakes....
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All helmets, cheap or not, are regulated by the US govt and are meant to work as designed. Expensive helmets primarily give you better weight and airflow, not safety.

I cracked my somewhat expensive helmet during my only crash. I think I blacked out for a second. It worked! Shirt was torn, but my head was fine.
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Glad to hear you're still alive, and still know how to spell your name.
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Testament to helmets!

Glad you're ok. But you need to work on your braking technique. You didn't crash because of too much front brake. In fact in a panic stop almost all your braking comes from the front.

You crashed because you didn't redistribute your weight properly
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/brandt/over-the-bars.html

You need to push your weight back as you brake hard
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... and learn to use front brakes....
...and how to fix the rears...
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Glad you are ok. Sorry about the admonition patrol
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Originally Posted by martslc View Post
....I was knocked out cold after hitting a pothole using front brake to much. Back brake was feeling iffty
How about being super careful about riding a safe bike, safely.
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Originally Posted by Darth Lefty View Post
Glad you are ok. Sorry about the admonition patrol
Teachable moment. Many people are afraid to use the front brake because they think they'll flip. OP appears to believe that's why he fell. When its actually not knowing how to use the front brake.

The Jobst Brant link is helpful in teaching how to do it right. I see no reason to apologize in taking an opportunity to pass on some knowledge.
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I also am glad you are okay. The helmet saved my melon last year, I was an advocate to wear one and now I am almost fanatical. They are a great investment and who cares what they look like; better off with an ugly hat on the head than dead.

Yay for life and normal brain function.

By the way my helmet was a Bell helmet sold at a Costco.
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Originally Posted by Tycho Brahe View Post
All helmets, cheap or not, are regulated by the US govt and are meant to work as designed. Expensive helmets primarily give you better weight and airflow, not safety.
This isn't true now that MIPS is out.
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Well I hope you saw a Dr. I put it off when I was crashed and knocked out in 2012 for 5 days. Still had swelling on the brain when I finally went. To this day I still have memory and attention issues that I'm told will be there the rest of my life. Get checked out anytime you get knocked out.
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Originally Posted by UmneyDurak View Post
... and learn to use front brakes....
You think?
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh View Post
Glad you're ok. But you need to work on your braking technique. You didn't crash because of too much front brake. In fact in a panic stop almost all your braking comes from the front.

You crashed because you didn't redistribute your weight properly
Going Over the Bars by Jobst Brandt

You need to push your weight back as you brake hard
Yes you are correct but sometimes you just don't have time to shift your weight. In fact I dont even remember the pothole or braking but it had to be the combination of not seeing it and not reacting correctly.
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Originally Posted by FBinNY View Post
How about being super careful about riding a safe bike, safely.
Oh, really you think?
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Originally Posted by rmfnla View Post
...and how to fix the rears...
Oh wow you think, hey thanks for that tip. Never crossed my mind.
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh View Post
Teachable moment. Many people are afraid to use the front brake because they think they'll flip. OP appears to believe that's why he fell. When its actually not knowing how to use the front brake.

The Jobst Brant link is helpful in teaching how to do it right. I see no reason to apologize in taking an opportunity to pass on some knowledge.
Holla-loo-yuh someone who doesn't think I was just stuppid and even if I was... I think that the lesson learned taught me much better then the "Admonition Patrol". It was about helments and why I think I might of crashed. (Never even seen the pothole due to some other reasons not explained).
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Originally Posted by martslc View Post
Oh, really you think?
Yes,

From your post, you chose to ride without a rear brake, and used too much front brake. Both easily avoidable. The helmet did mitigate what might have been more serious consequences of your errors, but the errors themselves were avoidable, and that was my point.
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Originally Posted by jamesdak View Post
Well I hope you saw a Dr. I put it off when I was crashed and knocked out in 2012 for 5 days. Still had swelling on the brain when I finally went. To this day I still have memory and attention issues that I'm told will be there the rest of my life. Get checked out anytime you get knocked out.
Thanks. I did and all is well. In most cases there's not you can do but take extra care not to jolt you melon around for a could of weeks. If really server then the administer anti swelling drugs or operate to relieve pressure. (My son is a ER doc.)
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Originally Posted by FBinNY View Post
Yes,

From your post, you chose to ride without a rear brake, and used too much front brake. Both easily avoidable. The helmet did mitigate what might have been more serious consequences of your errors, but the errors themselves were avoidable, and that was my point.

Hey if you have ever crashed over the years you have road here's some advice, it was avoidable.
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Glad you are OK. Never mind the dill-holes...
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Oh wow you think, hey thanks for that tip. Never crossed my mind.
No, that was the pavement...
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Originally Posted by FBinNY View Post
Yes,

From your post, you chose to ride without a rear brake, and used too much front brake. Both easily avoidable. The helmet did mitigate what might have been more serious consequences of your errors, but the errors themselves were avoidable, and that was my point.
That was all of our points, with a bit of 41 humor tossed in (at no extra charge!) but some people get a little defensive...
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Why the hell so many beating on the OP over his one off/just needed at the moment braking technique??

I have no idea what this cycling obsession over front brake uber alles is. I learned the value of trail braking in Race Car/Motorcycle 101 over 50 years ago.

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Armchair quarterbacking a crash you werent personally there for seems kind of inane as you dont know exactly what happened. Glad you're ok OP. Seeing stories like this make me glad I always ride with a helmet on..
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