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Old 03-26-16, 05:14 PM
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Biking Bet, Need Opinions

Our GM said that it would be easy from him to bike from our store in Portland OR to the Oregon Ducks Stadium in Eugene in less than 12 hours for a large wager. I want to get your opinions on if he can do it and some help/ideas on tracking his journey.

Some of the facts;

1.) He does not participate in bike riding... at all.
2.) He is not in great physical shape and can stand to lose some pounds.
3.) The only endurance challenges he partakes in is drinking.
4.) He is in his mid 40s.
5.) The trip is about 126 miles.
6.) The elevation change is upward about 450 feet, so relatively flat. There is a steady and consistent number of hills up and down the way though.
7.) He has 2 months to train, but I doubt he'll do much of anything to get ready.

What do you think the odds are he's able to complete it?

Also, being morons we figured it would be best to outfit him in a go pro so we can watch it. Maybe there is a better method for this. We were also thinking about outfitting his bike with some type of device that would keep track of his speed, distance traveled, location etc that we might be able to track via the internet. Any ideas on what might be best?

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Old 03-26-16, 05:18 PM
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On a reasonable road bike that fits? Get ready to lose.
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Old 03-26-16, 05:18 PM
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He'll quit around mile 85.

The newer Garmin bike gps computers have a live track feature.

Why don't you go with him?
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Old 03-26-16, 05:18 PM
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I say still doable. If he has a headwind maybe not.
Is he getting help from Lance Armstrong?
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Old 03-26-16, 05:20 PM
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Noodle, I read point 1 and 2 as he doesn't ride at all and probably won't train.
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Old 03-26-16, 05:22 PM
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a non-cyclist will choke on a 120-mile ride.
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Old 03-26-16, 05:33 PM
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My guess is he bonks and ends up quitting.
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Old 03-26-16, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by f4rrest View Post
Noodle, I read point 1 and 2 as he doesn't ride at all and probably won't train.
The average sloth of a human can do that ride, if the bet is enough. It all depends on how much quit is in the guy. If he rides enough to toughen up his sit bones, it's a loss for the OP.

I wish someone would challenge me to anything like that. Obviously, the situation is different though.
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Old 03-26-16, 05:56 PM
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what's "your store"?

126mi is a lot, 2 months is a little, depends on motivation. But that's 10mph, which is certainly reasonable in the Willamette Valley.

Should also tell your GM it's unoriginal
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Old 03-26-16, 05:56 PM
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126 miles (approx. 200 km) on flat terrain in 12 hours should be quite doable as long as he rides a bit in the next couple months.

I've done it many, many times ... and with more climbing than that.

In fact, the first 200 km of our 300 km randonnee yesterday would have been covered in 12 hours and it had a whole lot more climbing than that.


Incidentally, the time limit for a 200K randonnee is 13 hours 30 min ... get him to ride a couple randonnees with your local randonneuring/audax club.
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Old 03-26-16, 05:57 PM
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We were discussing the Bilzerian bet which lead to all this nonsense.

Typo on the whole participation thing. It should have read does not participate. Thanks for a heads up on the Garmin. I'm going to check that out.

As a novice it feels like once his legs are dead around mile 60-80 those hills are going to become a nightmare.

Full disclosure the bet is for a couple grand.

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Old 03-26-16, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by tedder View Post
Should also tell your GM it's unoriginal
I'd guess the boss was talking smack about how easy cycling is, and he got roped in on the bet.
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Old 03-26-16, 06:16 PM
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Get him a heavy hybrid and under inflate the tires
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Old 03-26-16, 06:24 PM
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126 miles (approx. 200 km) on flat terrain in 12 hours should be quite doable
Your forgetting, he doesn't ride at all. Even if he starts & learns hydration & nutrition, he's going to be fighting the feeling of being on a bike for HOURS. Something we all had to get used to. It doesn't happen overnight. I say go for it. Really, it's a win-win situation. You win he can't, or he wins and realizes what goes into it and has a bigger amount of respect for what you do, or hell, even becomes interested in bettering himself.
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Old 03-26-16, 06:26 PM
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IMO, it will come down to whether or not he wears proper bike shorts.
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Old 03-26-16, 06:45 PM
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How many bars are along the route?

I say if he trains hard and theres not too many hills its doable in 2 months. Expect a lot of suffering.
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Old 03-26-16, 06:46 PM
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If 'easy' is part of the bet,

then you should be in good shape.
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Old 03-26-16, 06:51 PM
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One of the problems that you'll run into is route choice.

If you slam down I-5, you can do it in about 100 miles, and it should be pretty easy to do in about 12 hours (with some training and prep). I'm not sure if it is legal to ride the 5 in Portland, but it is legal in most of the rest of the state. It is not a fun ride though. Wide shoulders, so it is reasonably safe for the attentive rider, just not a fun route.

On the other hand, when I took the Oregon Scenic Bikeway, plus my personal start to the ride on the Eugene end (heading through Marcola), and the ride from Chapoeg to Portland, I think I racked up 183 miles. Plus loaded panniers. I think I must have chosen the hottest day of the year last year It was a hard ride to do in one-day (way over 12 hours), and would be tough for a non-avid rider to do in 12 hours.

I've adjusted my course to make a hybrid course, and usually do it in about 145 miles or so. Again a long day, especially when hauling cargo or pulling a trailer.

But, if you're talking about a large wager (thousands, or many thousands).... then I-5 would be the route

A rider really has to have a concrete stomach to take 99E, 99W, I-5, or some of the other more direct routes. Start working on the route early. Do you have a route planned that you used to calculate 126 miles with?

If you're talking about a casual bet (a few hundred), then go for a more scenic route.

How fixed is the 12 hour limit? If I was to do the bet, I'd do 24 hours, and choose the Oregon Scenic Bikeway or something similar.

Your friend would presumably be supported, or be planning on "credit card" touring, so could do it with little more than a 15 lb bike and couple of spare tubes. That will help a bit.

In the spirit of your bet, you might select a longer (safer and more pleasant) route, but to do it at 10 or 11 MPH. So, say do 145 miles in 14 or 15 hours.
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Sitting on a bike seat for 12 hours for anyone not used to it is probably going to be the real killer.

For tracking you can probably do a search for a "live tracking" app for his phone. But you might be running into battery time issues here. I know my phone, with the GPS on, eats through the battery real quick and would never last 12 hours.

Garmin has an app that can send live tracking when paired to a compatible Edge or Forerunner computer:

Garmin | LiveTrack
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Originally Posted by clydeosaur View Post
Your forgetting, he doesn't ride at all. Even if he starts & learns hydration & nutrition, he's going to be fighting the feeling of being on a bike for HOURS. Something we all had to get used to. It doesn't happen overnight. I say go for it. Really, it's a win-win situation. You win he can't, or he wins and realizes what goes into it and has a bigger amount of respect for what you do, or hell, even becomes interested in bettering himself.
This. 10 -12 hours on a bicycle saddle is wearing on the mind and the muscles. Proper fuel and hydration will be critical. Spot is another tracking option.
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If he does not put some gradually increasing saddle time in over the next 2 months, no.

If he rides every 2-3 days, starting off at 30 minutes and adds 30 minutes each ride, yes.
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Old 03-26-16, 07:43 PM
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It's definitely possible from a physical standpoint. You can push through a lot of pain and do stuff you have no business doing if you want it enough. The biggest question is how much he wants it. He may not have the motivation to exercise on a regular basis, but never underestimate the power of money and the male ego.

I say he does it.
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Old 03-26-16, 07:50 PM
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Here was my route to Portland last summer (mixed both directions together)




Starting in Eugene, and heading through Marcola, that first peak could be avoided if following the official Scenic Bikeway.

The return trip went more direct on the Eugene side, as well as cutting off some meandering around Albany, and north of Salem.

It might depend on whether you start in East or West Portland, but if I was doing it, I might choose McLoughlin Blvd/99E from Portland to Salem. That wouldn't be a fun road to ride, but it would be reasonably direct. I'm not sure about Salem to Albany, maybe a while on I-5. Then south of Albany, on my last ride, I hit Waverly drive at the Dairy Queen in Albany. Took it to 99E, to Powerline Rd to Coburg Rd to Eugene.

Doing it in a day is fine.

Doing it in 12 hours will take some work.
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Oh...

A double hilly half century coming up next month (more or less). Hopefully I'll be up in Portland then, but put it on your Calendar.
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...l#post18526984

Great for TRAINING.

Oh, I should be riding from PDX to EUG sometime mid week maybe April 29-31, if I am still wobbling on 2 wheels. I'd welcome a riding companion. 12 hours is still a tough riding goal.

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I think it depends more on his mental attitude than his physical ability. It is doable - probably with some/much suffering - if he really commits to train AND has mental stamina.
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