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Shoes for wide feet (not boa)

Old 04-01-16, 12:09 PM
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Shoes for wide feet (not boa)

Were talking EEE here, with high arches. Looking for not BOA.

I've already got an old pair of Sidi Genius Mega not BOA. The fit right but are pretty ratty and need to be replaced. About ready to just replace them but wanted to see if there are alternatives for wide feet and high arches.

I need lots of volume in the toe box and adjustable closure across the top of the arch. That means not BOA.

So what else is out there besides Sidi Genius Mega?


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Originally Posted by TimothyH View Post
Were talking EEE here, with high arches. Looking for not BOA.

I've already got an old pair of Sidi Genius Mega not BOA. The fit right but are pretty ratty and need to be replaced. About ready to just replace them but wanted to see if there are alternatives for wide feet and high arches.

I need lots of volume in the toe box and adjustable closure across the top of the arch. That means not BOA.

So what else is out there besides Sidi Genius Mega?


-Tim-
Same foot issues for me. I just switched from Sidi to the new Shimano RP-9 shoes and they are great. They are made is wide widths, have a carbon sole, and heat-moldable uppers and insoles.

RP9 - ROAD - CYCLING FOOTWEAR AND PEDALS - LIFESTYLE GEAR - SHIMANO
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I also have duck feet and have been very happy with Shimano's over the years. Last year I bought a high end, heat moldable shoe which has a choice of two arch inserts, depending on how much arch support you need. The RP9 looks like a good choice. They appear to change their models each year.
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Originally Posted by curtism View Post
Same foot issues for me. I just switched from Sidi to the new Shimano RP-9 shoes and they are great. They are made is wide widths, have a carbon sole, and heat-moldable uppers and insoles.

RP9 - ROAD - CYCLING FOOTWEAR AND PEDALS - LIFESTYLE GEAR - SHIMANO
Did you have these molded to your feet?
After fitting the shoes with pre-warmed soles the entire shoe was baked. Once back on the feet a vacuum bag removed all the air and the shoe was ‘sucked’ onto my feet.

First-look review: Shimano RP9 road shoes | CyclingTips
Can this be right? Do they give you vacuum bags and do you bake the shoes in your oven at home? Really not understanding how this process is done.


Edit: Yeah, I guess so. Here are the dealer instructions. Never heard of such a thing. Really can't buy these online I guess.

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I molded mine at home in the oven. I just started with the temperature low then raised it by 10 degrees at a time until the uppers became pliable. It worked fine.
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Originally Posted by curtism View Post
I molded mine at home in the oven. I just started with the temperature low then raised it by 10 degrees at a time until the uppers became pliable. It worked fine.
How did you vacuum?

You know what? Nevermind. LoL.

Restating my original question, is there anything out there besides Sidi Genius Mega or shoes that need to be sucked onto your feet by a vacuum?
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Lake makes great wide cycling shoes. I use the wide CX217 currently, but it uses a single boa. The CX237 also uses boa, but it uses two separate boa closures, so maybe that would work for ya.
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Originally Posted by TimothyH View Post
How did you vacuum?

You know what? Nevermind. LoL.

Restating my original question, is there anything out there besides Sidi Genius Mega or shoes that need to be sucked onto your feet by a vacuum?
No problem. By the way, I didn't use a vacuum on the Shimano shoes, I just tightened the shoe and let it mold to my foot as it cooled. Pretty simple.

I've used Lake shoes also and they seem well made. I version I tried has a single BOA which didn't work well because it didn't allow different pressures at different places on the shoe -- it just distributed the same pressure to all locations.

I think the Lake shoe that has two BOAs may be better.

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Originally Posted by TimothyH View Post
Did you have these molded to your feet?
Just because the shoes can be heat molded doesn't mean they need to be. I never needed to do the heat molding since mine fit so well. If I was having any issues, I'd do it without worry. Heat molding is much more common with speed skate boots since fit is very critical. It's common to have hot spots on the foot and ankle where there's too much pressure and heat molding will help to solve these issues. If you google "speed skates heat molding" you can watch several videos to see how it's done if needed.
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I wear 11 EEE. I have a pair of Sidi Genius 5.0 mega width and a pair of Specialized Pro Road wide width. Both size 45 and they have lots of room.
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Originally Posted by curtism View Post
No problem. By the way, I didn't use a vacuum on the Shimano shoes, I just tightened the shoe and let it mold to my foot as it cooled. Pretty simple.

I've used Lake shoes also and they seem well made. I version I tried has a single BOA which didn't work well because it didn't allow different pressures at different places on the shoe -- it just distributed the same pressure to all locations.

I think the Lake shoe that has two BOAs may be better.

Good luck!
Red/Bold is exactly what I'm talking about. You understand perfectly.

@Everyone, I'm going to look into Lake and Specialized. Trying to save for the new "best car for cyclists" and need to keep cost down.
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I have EEE wide feet and found Lakes to be wider than either Sidi mega or Shimano wide. Just my 2 cents.
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I have a pair of Lakes in wide with a single BOA -- love both the shoes and the BOA. Certainly, models with two BOAs would be better though.

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Red/Bold is exactly what I'm talking about. You understand perfectly.

@Everyone, I'm going to look into Lake and Specialized. Trying to save for the new "best car for cyclists" and need to keep cost down.
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Wide foot w/ high arch here, have never been able to find a Sidi that's comfortable. Specialized has been my go-to for cycling shoes, for some reasons nearly all of their models seem roomier than the equivalently sized Sidi. I've also got a pair of Gaerne shoes that are wonderful.
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Interesting about specialized. thanks!
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Originally Posted by TimothyH View Post
Were talking EEE here, with high arches. Looking for not BOA.

I've already got an old pair of Sidi Genius Mega not BOA. The fit right but are pretty ratty and need to be replaced. About ready to just replace them but wanted to see if there are alternatives for wide feet and high arches.

I need lots of volume in the toe box and adjustable closure across the top of the arch. That means not BOA.

So what else is out there besides Sidi Genius Mega?


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What is BOA? Where is BOA? Who is BOA?
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe View Post
What is BOA? Where is BOA? Who is BOA?
BOA is a company.

They make one-wire quick close/open systems for sports shoes, medical devices, etc.

https://vimeo.com/5600228
Some cyclists love it. I can't wear it.

I generally skip a loop on running shoes to alleviate the pressure on my high arch and leave the middle velcro strap a bit loose on my Sidi cycling shoes. BOA does not allow you to do this kind of thing. BOA clamps indiscriminately and was painful for me just trying on the show in the store.

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Originally Posted by TimothyH View Post
BOA is a company. They make one-wire quick close/open systems for sports shoes, medical devices, etc.

https://vimeo.com/5600228
Some cyclists love it. I can't wear it.

I generally skip a loop on running shoes to alleviate the pressure on my high arch and leave the middle velcro strap a bit loose on my Sidi cycling shoes. BOA does not allow you to do this kind of thing.

Those of us with wide feet and/or high arches find that it distributes pressure evenly without the ability to adjust looser or tighter in any given spot. We value the comfort that comes from being able to adjust the shoe this way.
Thanks for the info.

Is BOA the same system used on SIDI "wire" shoes, or are they just similar?
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Originally Posted by TimothyH View Post
BOA is a company. They make one-wire quick close/open systems for sports shoes, medical devices, etc.

https://vimeo.com/5600228
Some cyclists love it. I can't wear it.

I generally skip a loop on running shoes to alleviate the pressure on my high arch and leave the middle velcro strap a bit loose on my Sidi cycling shoes. BOA does not allow you to do this kind of thing. BOA clamps indiscriminately and was painful for me just trying on the show in the store.
Thats a problem with individual shoe design, not with the BOA system. On shoes with multiple BOA closure devices, you can loosen or tighten them as needed. My favorite shoes for my wide feet that do not have BOA are definitely Shimano R320, Heat molded. My favorite shoe period currently are my Bont Vaypor S+ which have 2 BOA dials and have not been heat molded because they don't need it. I have 3 pairs of Sidis sitting in a box behind my couch.
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Bont makes some wider shoes, you can get the vaypors like I have with no Boa system, Although I prefer the Boa system I am fine with the closure system on my Bonts. Plus they fit my wider feet. They are one of the most custom cycling shoes out there from a fitment setting.
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Originally Posted by Silvercivic27 View Post
Thats a problem with individual shoe design, not with the BOA system. On shoes with multiple BOA closure devices, you can loosen or tighten them as needed. My favorite shoes for my wide feet that do not have BOA are definitely Shimano R320, Heat molded. My favorite shoe period currently are my Bont Vaypor S+ which have 2 BOA dials and have not been heat molded because they don't need it. I have 3 pairs of Sidis sitting in a box behind my couch.
You are most likely correct and I will defer. Several have stated that multiple BOA closures on a single shoe does make a difference.

I should have been clearer. Single BOA shoes are no good for me. Others with high arches and/or wide feet have said the same.

This is really besides the point of the thread however. I'm looking for shoes to fit wide feet and high arches which use traditional closure. That's what I'm asking.
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