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Old 05-15-16, 10:57 AM
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Wheels Question

Hey guys, so im looking to upgrade my bike (2002 Giant TCR 2) to 11 speed, and will need new set of wheels (current set is Mavic cxp21 with shimano 8/9/10 spd hub), which i know next to nothing about. So please pardon my ignorance.

Im trying to stay as low in price as possible, and hte Fulcrum Racing 5s seem like a decent wheel for the price.

Now i see they run ~$230 most places, but then came across these: Fulcrum Racing 5 Clincher Wheel Set Bright Label

The price seems to be too good for what im looking for, are these different in some way that i dont see?

Also, somebody is selling these in my area: Fulcrum Racing 5 Wheelset Wheels Road CX Cyclocross 700c

Would these work for me?

Sorry again for my ignorance when it comes to wheels, and thanks ahead of time for any help!
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Old 05-15-16, 11:02 AM
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Those CL wheels have some pretty wide tires, possibly wide rims. Many road bikes are limited to 25 to 28 mm tires, if you aren't able to use the tires those might not be that great of a value.
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Either wheelset should be fine. Not sure why planetcyclery is so cheap. I've never ordered from them. Bright labels just means the logos are bright I think (vs. subdued).
The CX 5 LGs are same width as the standard 5LGs; these are made to work best with 25mm+ width tires. I believe the only difference with the CX version is that the hubs are better sealed. That price though for used doesn't look so great (and have no idea if you'd even want those tires), and the seller mentions having taken apart the hubs.. I would avoid if cost difference at most is $30-50 vs new.

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Old 05-15-16, 11:23 AM
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Never noticed the LG on those, thank you, i knew they were different but couldnt figure it out lol.

Im looking to run no bigger than 25mm on them so it looks like the CL ones are out.

The bike will be used for day to day (25 miles round trip) and some longer 50+ mile rides.

So i may just snag those planet cyclery ones. It was just bugging me that there wasn't any real info about the rims on their site.


Thanks guys!
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Old 05-15-16, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by apaulson714 View Post
Never noticed the LG on those, thank you, i knew they were different but couldnt figure it out lol.

Im looking to run no bigger than 25mm on them so it looks like the CL ones are out.

The bike will be used for day to day (25 miles round trip) and some longer 50+ mile rides.

So i may just snag those planet cyclery ones. It was just bugging me that there wasn't any real info about the rims on their site.


Thanks guys!
It doesn't matter how big the tires are on the CL wheels. They will run 25s perfectly fine (but of course you need to supply your own tires). All fulcrum 5s are "LG" now with 23mm exterior rim width, and they're often sold as the OEM wheels on some brands of road bike. OTOH, that seems to be the reason the PlanetCyclery wheels are cheap, as they're not listed as LG -- which means they're 2 or 3 years old versions. Again, because all Fulcrum 5s are LG now.
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Old 05-15-16, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Sy Reene View Post
It doesn't matter how big the tires are on the CL wheels. They will run 25s perfectly fine (but of course you need to supply your own tires). All fulcrum 5s are "LG" now with 23mm exterior rim width, and they're often sold as the OEM wheels on some brands of road bike. OTOH, that seems to be the reason the PlanetCyclery wheels are cheap, as they're not listed as LG -- which means they're 2 or 3 years old versions. Again, because all Fulcrum 5s are LG now.
Alright thanks, so dumb question then. Should I be fine with the planet cyclery ones in terms of accepting an 11 speed cassette?

And other than not being able to do less than 25mm tires what would be the downside to the CL wheels (other than price, i would try to get him down the the price of the others at least)

Looking at the Fulcrum site they seems to be identical other than about 6 grams in weight
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Yes, should take an 11sp cassette. I think the non-LG FR5s were last sold in the 2014 model year so they won't be that old, but I could be wrong, it might have even been last year that the FR5 (nonLG) were still offered.

You can still probably run 23mm tires if you want to; a lot of folks put 23mm tires on 23mm rims; it's not uncommon. I think the CL seller indicates he won't negotiate; I think your best bet is to get a price for the wheels only, especially if you have no interest in the tires he's including.

The difference between CX LGs and non CX LGs is the hub sealing (and the logos on the side of the wheel).
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Great thanks a ton for the info. Ill shoot the CL guy an offer for just the wheels and if he wont move then ill grab the planet cyclery ones.

Thanks again!
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Can you replace the cassette body on your wheels to 11 speed ??
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Old 05-15-16, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Homebrew01 View Post
Can you replace the cassette body on your wheels to 11 speed ??
Never thought about that. Like this?: https://www.amazon.com/Easton-Cassett...+speed+freehub

Also would there be any other adjustments that would need to be made to the wheel with the 11 speed on there?
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Originally Posted by apaulson714 View Post
Never thought about that. Like this?: https://www.amazon.com/Easton-Cassett...+speed+freehub

Also would there be any other adjustments that would need to be made to the wheel with the 11 speed on there?
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Are you sure those C-List ones are actually 11sp compatible? I'd guess they are not.
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The logos on that stores site...those are the newer graphics compared to the CL set.
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Originally Posted by apaulson714 View Post
Never thought about that. Like this?: Amazon.com : Easton R4 Cassette Body : Sports & Outdoors

Also would there be any other adjustments that would need to be made to the wheel with the 11 speed on there?
Yes, just swap cassette bodies like that. Make sure it's the right one for your hub.
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Originally Posted by Homebrew01 View Post
Yes, just swap cassette bodies like that. Make sure it's the right one for your hub.
Alright another stupid question. How can i tell what will be compatible with my hub? The hub is a Shimano FH-5500
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Originally Posted by apaulson714 View Post
Alright another stupid question. How can i tell what will be compatible with my hub? The hub is a Shimano FH-5500
It's not a stupid question, but if your hub is an older Shimano 8,9,10 speed version, you won't find an 11speed free hub body that will fit what you have.
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It's not a stupid question, but if your hub is an older Shimano 8,9,10 speed version, you won't find an 11speed free hub body that will fit what you have.
Thats exactly what it is.

So new wheelset will be my best bet then? As im guessing the cost to replace the hub and free hub body will be about the same.

Also, 1 more question. Is The jump from the Fulcrum 7s to the Fulcrum 5s wirth the extra $100?

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I believe all Mavic hubs were already 11 speed compatible. You may only have to remove the spacer to run 11 speed on the current wheel
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He's got a mavic rim (cxp21) , not a mavic hub. The hub us an older shimano 105.

But you are correct that a lightly used mavic wheel set is an often-overlooked path to 11sp compatibility.

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Originally Posted by apaulson714 View Post
Thats exactly what it is.

So new wheelset will be my best bet then? As im guessing the cost to replace the hub and free hub body will be about the same.

Also, 1 more question. Is The jump from the Fulcrum 7s to the Fulcrum 5s wirth the extra $100?
Id probably buy these instead of the used ones.

https://www.merlincycles.com/fulcrum...bes-85433.html

(edit) Planet Cyclery is actually an even better deal.

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Alright well im leaning the Planet Cyclery wheels then.

They guy on CL doesn't seem to want to move on price, even without the tires and tubes, as he is "throwing them in for free"...

Final question for now. I noticed i can get the Fulcrum Racing 7s for around 130 vs 190 for the older model 5s.

Are the 5s worth the extra money? Or are the 7s decent?
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