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best suitable cassette for a 52-36 Crank

Old 05-18-16, 04:41 PM
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best suitable cassette for a 52-36 Crank

HI All , i live in a nearly flat terrain , sometimes on rides , there's low gradient roads , i'm a beginner to cycling though , but enjoy a fast ride ...
what's the best cassette that goes with a 52-36 crank .. 11-25 or 11-28 ..
And what do u think about the 52-36 against compact 50-34 ..
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if it's relatively flat than 11-25 should be fine or even 11-23 or 12-23 if you can find it. The tighter the spread in gears on your cassette the smoother your shifting will be. It's best to avoid big jumps between cogs. Where I live there are big hills and mountains so I wouldn't survive without 50/34 and at least a 28 t in the back
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Originally Posted by rms13 View Post
if it's relatively flat than 11-25 should be fine or even 11-23 or 12-23 if you can find it. The tighter the spread in gears on your cassette the smoother your shifting will be. It's best to avoid big jumps between cogs. Where I live there are big hills and mountains so I wouldn't survive without 50/34 and at least a 28 t in the back
The thing is a lot of people are advising 50-34 even in flat terrain for non-professional riders .. i found the mid compact crank as the best soln. for speed / ease of use .
so now i'm doing my tuning within cassette , but have to maintain ratios in between crank and cassette .. not sure if that a right approach
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no one need a 52x11 gear on flat terrain.
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Originally Posted by hythamfekry View Post
The thing is a lot of people are advising 50-34 even in flat terrain for non-professional riders .. i found the mid compact crank as the best soln. for speed / ease of use .
so now i'm doing my tuning within cassette , but have to maintain ratios in between crank and cassette .. not sure if that a right approach

50/36 with 11-23 is good for flat and rolling. Get a 11-25 you can swap on for hill country and you are set.

Get a 34 for hilly hills and run that with your 11-25.

That's going to get you over 90% of what you're going to confront unless you live in a state with real MOUNTAINS.
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Originally Posted by redlude97 View Post
no one need a 52x11 gear on flat terrain.
DO u mean better to have a 53/11 ?
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Originally Posted by andr0id View Post
50/36 with 11-23 is good for flat and rolling. Get a 11-25 you can swap on for hill country and you are set.

Get a 34 for hilly hills and run that with your 11-25.

That's going to get you over 90% of what you're going to confront unless you live in a state with real MOUNTAINS.
Crank is 52-36... so guess it's best to go with 11-25 , right ... close gears , suitable for flat terrains and will work nice with low gradient roads along with the 52-36 ..
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Originally Posted by hythamfekry View Post
Crank is 52-36... so guess it's best to go with 11-25 , right ... close gears , suitable for flat terrains and will work nice with low gradient roads along with the 52-36 ..
SRAM makes an 11-26 if you want a bit easier granny gear. It works fine with Shimano 11sp. I went from 50/34 to 52/36 and I prefer the mid-compact.
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Originally Posted by hythamfekry View Post
DO u mean better to have a 53/11 ?
No, some people just think that we should just coast down hills or when we have a stiff tail wind.
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aha okey , thanks Alot
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Originally Posted by Dunbar View Post
SRAM makes an 11-26 if you want a bit easier granny gear. It works fine with Shimano 11sp. I went from 50/34 to 52/36 and I prefer the mid-compact.
thanks Dunbar .. Will consider a 11-26 SRAM or 11-25 shimano i guess
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For flat ground, I like the 12-25 in 11-speed. It adds the 18 cog and drops the 11 cog. The 17-18-19 cogs are right in the 20 to 22 mph range, where I need close shifts to keep my cadence in the mid-90s.

(I have hills and use a 11-28) I occasionally use the 50-11 on long downhills, just to keep the pedals turning so my legs don't get stiff. I used to have a 50-13 top gear, and just coasted at speeds over 33-34 mph. I didn't miss the 50-12 or 50-11. I just don't understand why all the bikes now come with an 11-28 11-speed.

Here's the Mike Sherman Gear Calculator setup for 52-36 and 12-25. The popup message just tells you that you can save the settings by bookmark/favorite the page.

The 52 chainring in black , 36 in red:



Try different cassettes, like the typical 11-28, and even try 50-34 chainrings. All the charts update on the fly.

The 52-36 chainrings move all the shift points up about 4%, or a little less than half a typical rear shift. (One cog shift ranges from about 6% to about 14%, depending on the cogs.) So you can go about 1 mph faster in the small ring before you run out of cogs. The tradeoff is a little harder hill climbing, of course.

52-19 at 95 rpm: 20.3 mph.
50-19 at 95 rpm: 19.5 mph.
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For truly flat might as well go 1x11. I dont know why you would need a 34 or 36
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Originally Posted by hythamfekry View Post
DO u mean better to have a 53/11 ?
Flat terrain doesn't have steep down hills where you could push an 11.
Many people (not all) prefer to have a 12 small cog, and another cog in the middle instead of 11, such as 18, that will be much more useful than very rare use of 11 tooth.

If I was a flatlander, I would use 53 x 39 and 12-23.
I use a 12-25 now with lots of rollers and short "grunters".
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Originally Posted by Homebrew01 View Post
Flat terrain doesn't have steep down hills where you could push an 11.
Many people (not all) prefer to have a 12 small cog, and another cog in the middle instead of 11, such as 18, that will be much more useful than very rare use of 11 tooth.

If I was a flatlander, I would use 53 x 39 and 12-23.
I use a 12-25 now with lots of rollers and short "grunters".
I would use a 48 up front and 12-25
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Originally Posted by rms13 View Post
I would use a 48 up front and 12-25
Various good options.

OP suggesting a 34 or 36 seems odd for flat terrain though.
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Originally Posted by rms13 View Post
For truly flat might as well go fixed gear
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Originally Posted by rms13 View Post
For truly flat might as well go 1x11. I dont know why you would need a 34 or 36
This is what I would do if I rode nothing but flats.
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Originally Posted by Homebrew01 View Post
Various good options.

OP suggesting a 34 or 36 seems odd for flat terrain though.
it's nearly flat where i live , but i go to variuos rides , where there's low gradient roads , plus i'm still building my fitness , so thought to drop from 53 to 52 in high gear to benefit from 36 in low gear .
11-25 or 12-25 seems a fine match with 52-36 crank , guess 25 can be ok in low gradient roads ..
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If it's flat why are you not using 53/39? sur la plaque!
No need for 53x11 in flats, get a tight 12-23 cassette
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Originally Posted by hythamfekry View Post
HI All , i live in a nearly flat terrain , sometimes on rides , there's low gradient roads , i'm a beginner to cycling though , but enjoy a fast ride ...
what's the best cassette that goes with a 52-36 crank .. 11-25 or 11-28 ..
And what do u think about the 52-36 against compact 50-34 ..
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12-13-14-15-16-17-18-19-21-23 10 speeds; 11-12-13-14-15-16-17-18-19-21-23 or 12-13-14-15-16-17-18-19-21-23-25 11. All have one-tooth jumps through the 19 cog which feels good on flat roads.

A 50 big ring is fine, with even 50x12 larger than the 52x13 big gear Eddy Merckx use to dominate racing. The smaller starting cogs just delay your shift to the big ring and provide a better chainline on cogs you're more likely to use.

The 34 is undesirable because it means more front shifting when you run out of usable smaller cogs.

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12-23 10-speed or 12-25 11-speed is ideal for flatland riding and gentle rollers.
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For what its worth, I ride in Wisconsin (pretty damn flat, sounds similar to what you are describing) with 12-25 and 53-39 and im pretty pleased with that. Thinking about making changes up front but as long as im riding around here I dont see myself changing from the 12-25
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52/36 11/28 11s here in pretty flat Florida. I find it perfect.
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Originally Posted by Homebrew01 View Post
Flat terrain doesn't have steep down hills where you could push an 11.
Many people (not all) prefer to have a 12 small cog, and another cog in the middle instead of 11, such as 18, that will be much more useful than very rare use of 11 tooth.

If I was a flatlander, I would use 53 x 39 and 12-23.
I use a 12-25 now with lots of rollers and short "grunters".
Flat here. I use 53-39 and 12-23 or 25.
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