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Chinese carbon bike frames-Looking for builders with first hand experience

Old 05-19-16, 08:46 PM
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Chinese carbon bike frames-Looking for builders with first hand experience

Was just checking out youtube videos about a guy building cyclocross and road bike with Chinese carbon frames. I was wondering if there are any folks around that have first hand knowledge or experience building bikes with these frames.

The frame prices were in the $450-$550 range full carbon frame,forks,headset,seat clamp and rear hanger from Alibaba. One guy had just finish a real nice looking cx bike with flat bars and a custom built full carbon frame with an Ultegra SRAM red combo drivetrain. Very interesting and not the typical matched groupset.
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Me and a few others here have built up Workswell frames and all satisfied. The weightweenies forum has a lot of people who have built Workswell, Hongfu, Dengfu etc.
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Don't buy from Alibaba if you can locate the actual maker. Dengfu, Hongfu, and Workswell sell direct. Workwell is the cheapest of the three and makes terrific frames. Search for our old threads on the subject. Lots of information. Mainly myself and rms13.
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Don't buy from Alibaba if you can locate the actual maker. Dengfu, Hongfu, and Workswell sell direct. Workwell is the cheapest of the three and makes terrific frames. Search for our old threads on the subject. Lots of information. Mainly myself and rms13.
Right forgot to mention Workswell...very cool and good to know. As you said I will look into some old threads with you and rms13.

The main thing I have been wrestling with is whether I should cannibalize (mostly for the mechs) my 10yr old Trek Pilot 2.1 equipped with a good combo of Ultegra and 105 to build a cx/gravel bike using a new frameset and mech disc brakes. This would be to satisfy my need to get some off-road time while the bulk of my riding is on my road bike.

Then I'll be building a new road bike with CF or titanium/cf fork frameset with new Ultegra 6800 mech groupset. Being new to the wheelset tech I would be seeking guidance and suggestion for a good value budget combo for the cx bike and a quality cf set that doesn't cost a fortune for the road bike
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I am building (rebuilding) on my 3rd frame from. This one was caused by loaning my back up bike to a friend and then a car turned into their file of riders. Fork and head tube cracked. So bought a Cervelo S5 kit (everything but grouppo) for $1128. Rebuild is almost complete.

The first was a Pinarello Dogma 60.1. That bike is great and always has been. I will be torn between the Dogma and S5 now. Not a bad choice either way. In dealing with the Aliexpress or Alibaba I suggest to get an email dialog going first. It can be a good idea to get an extra derailleur hanger and maybe seat post with any purchase. They are the most fragile and temper mental pieces that can be hard to deal with after the sale. I know my size and like doing virtually all my own work so it works well for me. Hope all works out for you.

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Don't buy from Alibaba if you can locate the actual maker. Dengfu, Hongfu, and Workswell sell direct. Workwell is the cheapest of the three and makes terrific frames. Search for our old threads on the subject. Lots of information. Mainly myself and rms13.
Workswell doesn't seem to have any pricing or a storefront on their site. Just describing their frames and other stuff. Do you have to contact them directly in order to order?
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Right forgot to mention Workswell...very cool and good to know. As you said I will look into some old threads with you and rms13.

The main thing I have been wrestling with is whether I should cannibalize (mostly for the mechs) my 10yr old Trek Pilot 2.1 equipped with a good combo of Ultegra and 105 to build a cx/gravel bike using a new frameset and mech disc brakes. This would be to satisfy my need to get some off-road time while the bulk of my riding is on my road bike.

Then I'll be building a new road bike with CF or titanium/cf fork frameset with new Ultegra 6800 mech groupset. Being new to the wheelset tech I would be seeking guidance and suggestion for a good value budget combo for the cx bike and a quality cf set that doesn't cost a fortune for the road bike
Would be interested to see how a Ti frame fares after some healthy time on the road.
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Workswell doesn't seem to have any pricing or a storefront on their site. Just describing their frames and other stuff. Do you have to contact them directly in order to order?
Workwell sells in eBay under Sobatostore. Thats where I bought my 062 mountain frame through.
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Workswell doesn't seem to have any pricing or a storefront on their site. Just describing their frames and other stuff. Do you have to contact them directly in order to order?
Email the contact on their website.

A lot of good info

Hongfu FM-066/Chinese open mould frame thread - Weight Weenies
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Yes, OP, you contact them asking for a quotation on the frame you want. I will risk flames by saying you should not consider buying a fake branded bike from China like "Pinarello" or "Cervelo" that lesdunham was referring to. The best Chinese frames come from the major players like Workswell, Dengfu, and Hongfu who do not put fake names on their frames. For carbon wheels I like the onlycarbonwheel people on ebay, but the frame makers also offer rims/wheels.
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Yes, OP, you contact them asking for a quotation on the frame you want. I will risk flames by saying you should not consider buying a fake branded bike from China like "Pinarello" or "Cervelo" that lesdunham was referring to. The best Chinese frames come from the major players like Workswell, Dengfu, and Hongfu who do not put fake names on their frames. For carbon wheels I like the onlycarbonwheel people on ebay, but the frame makers also offer rims/wheels.
I won't flame you, I say +1!. Buying counterfeit products makes you an accomplice, and helps create a market. I recently saw a CL ad for a used Chinarello- but it wasn't obvious unless you read the ad carefully that it was a fake. I have to wonder about the inevitable rip-offs that will happen when these things show up on the used market.
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Here is my HongFu FM- 032. I am very happy with it. The quality is excellent, it is very lite and handles very well. I built it with Sram Force 22, November wheels, Ritchey bars and 3T stem. A little over 15lbs.



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Here is my HongFu FM- 032. I am very happy with it. The quality is excellent, it is very lite and handles very well. I built it with Sram Force 22, November wheels, Ritchey bars and 3T stem. A little over 15lbs.
That's a lovely looking frame but I can't seem to find it on the HongFu website.

I priced the Workswell WCB-R-066 direct from the factory at $449.00 shipped with fork, headset, seat post and seat clamp.
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That's a lovely looking frame but I can't seem to find it on the HongFu website.

I priced the Workswell WCB-R-066 direct from the factory at $449.00 shipped with fork, headset, seat post and seat clamp.
And 22 mm/24/mm bottom bracket adapter. If you order, my advice is to tell them to NOT install the BB adapter. Having the BB shell empty makes running the internal cables much easier. You can always install the adapter or a much lighter one later.
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Workwell sells in eBay under Sobatostore. Thats where I bought my 062 mountain frame through.
Like this:

Sobato Carbon Bike Road Frame Fork UD Super Light Bicycle Frameset 50 53 55cm | eBay
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Planet X in the UK (£399 for a carbon frame plus carbon fork) .... these are good (they were £299 a few days ago ... not sure if they ship to other countries:

Planet X RT-57 Carbon Road Frameset | Planet X
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Planet X in the UK (£399 for a carbon frame plus carbon fork) .... these are good (they were £299 a few days ago ... not sure if they ship to other countries:

Planet X RT-57 Carbon Road Frameset | Planet X
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others sadly have lost their voice on the matter because they are no longer with us.
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Here is my HongFu FM- 032. I am very happy with it. The quality is excellent, it is very lite and handles very well. I built it with Sram Force 22, November wheels, Ritchey bars and 3T stem. A little over 15lbs.





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does workswell offer painting services like velobuild does? Ive kicked around buying one with a paint job but there seems to be a love or hate reputation with velobuild. Price for the frame seems equal
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I'm a happy owner of a Nashbar frame/fork that I got sub-$500. Box said it came from Taiwan. Anyone recognize if/which of the makers it would have come from?

Nashbar Carbon Road Frame and Fork
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does workswell offer painting services like velobuild does? Ive kicked around buying one with a paint job but there seems to be a love or hate reputation with velobuild. Price for the frame seems equal
Yes to the paint question and cheap, but the reputation of the paint jobs is not great.
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Yes to the paint question and cheap, but the reputation of the paint jobs is not great.
that's unfortunate, a big part of the appeal of these frames to me is the ability to make a bike that doesn't look like everyone else's. I guess I could have one sprayed myself, but at a rather high cost.
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that's unfortunate, a big part of the appeal of these frames to me is the ability to make a bike that doesn't look like everyone else's. I guess I could have one sprayed myself, but at a rather high cost.
For $50-$75 maybe the factory paint job is a reasonable gamble. What's the worst that could happen? You have to have it redone...when you save up the money? That isn't too bad a prospect.
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