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Old 05-26-16, 08:36 AM
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"Race Cut" Bibs

I just received a "race cut" kit from a supplier as a sample for getting a clubs future business. I wear a large bib in Louis Garneau, Champion, PI etc but on the advice from the supplier they sent me an XL bib. Having never had race cut bibs (only jerseys which I do size up one) are they all this snug? I tried them on last night and it looks like I have a very prominent man ******** and I feel like I'll rip the bib or straps when I try to take a leak. I'm guessing I need to try a XXL but the thought of wearing something labeled like that makes me feel like a huge fat Fred. Are all race cut bibs that frigging snug?
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How do they feel while on the bike?
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Originally Posted by floridamtb
I tried them on last night and it looks like I have a very prominent man ********
So what I hear you saying is that you actually don't.
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I'd like to know what has that many letters that is censored and stands for manly bits.

OP- race cut is just marketing terminology, the actual sizing isn't fixed and it varies from manufacturer to manufacturer. That said, it is intended for racers and the average racer is very slim by normal standards so it stands to reason that most race cut stuff will be tight, even without a potbelly or thunder thighs.

Edited to add that my race cut stuff requires a size up on jerseys and bibs. I go from medium in normal club stuff to large in race cut. Bibs are delightfully snug, most of my kit is from a local company called Cutaway.

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Originally Posted by Dan333SP
I'd like to know what has that many letters that is censored and stands for manly bits.
Camel toe.
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Moose man knuckle?
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Originally Posted by Dan333SP
I'd like to know what has that many letters that is censored and stands for manly bits.
camel + toe. It really splits the man bits
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Originally Posted by Dan333SP
I'd like to know what has that many letters that is censored and stands for manly bits.
+1

All the local racers on a particular team have complained about this year's bibs being extremely tight for the same size vs previous years. I don't know who makes their kit but I wonder if its the same.
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Race cut bibs? What, does someone make club cut bibs?
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Don't worry about the size label, as they can vary widely from brand to brand. I'm usually a small in race cut, but my Wilier jersey made by Castelli is a large (even my other Castelli jerseys are small). And yes, they're supposed to be snug, with minimal flapping.
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Maybe they are designed for a more 'crouched' position? Who knows, most likely marketing at work.
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Originally Posted by floridamtb
Are all race cut bibs that frigging snug?
The short answer is yes. Have you seen the most bike racers? Race cut bibs are for cyclists with minimal body fat and some leg muscle and that's about it.
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If you tried them on and need the next size up that's what you need. Ignore the size label, most clothing in the U.S. is mislabeled or even intentionally "vanity-sized." Bicycle clothes are technical gear, you need the size that allows you to be comfortable and efficient on the bike.
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Before every ride I routinely like to check the size labels on everyone clothes. You never know when one of "those people" will show up.
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Originally Posted by Lazyass
Race cut bibs? What, does someone make club cut bibs?
Yup. Voler.
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Originally Posted by Marcus_Ti
Yup. Voler.
Really? What model is the "club cut" bib short?
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Sounds like it's size like some stuff I tried in Italy a few years ago. I wear a L in most jerseys I buy in the states and XL bibs. I think I tried on a XXL in a high-end shop and it was too small. Didn't even waste time trying on the matching bibs.
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Originally Posted by Lazyass
Really? What model is the "club cut" bib short?
Damn, well they used to.


When RBR was doing custom kits through Voler, there sure as hell was a fit labeled "club fit" and a "race fit" that were each called just that.
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Originally Posted by Marcus_Ti
Damn, well they used to.


When RBR was doing custom kits through Voler, there sure as hell was a fit labeled "club fit" and a "race fit" that were each called just that.
They would have to have been talking about the jersey part of the kit. There's no such thing as a "club cut" bib short. Some brands are tighter by size than others, but they'll all supposed to fit skin tight.
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I bet race cut means the length/height may be similar to their regular cut but maybe smaller in diameter/girth for leaner riders.

I would just get what fits and works well on the bike.
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I tried wearing a bib .... my thighs are too thick and it feels like my legs are being strangled ...

so I just use gym shorts with no padding and no underpants (my gym shorts have an internal liner) .... it's fine and I have no discomfort even on a 125 mile ride and on a Brooks B15 narrow champion saddle
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I've never heard of a race cut bib short. Do they come with less padding up front?

I do like the fit of the race cut jerseys though. They don't sag in the rear once you load the pockets like some jerseys makers...*cough* Castelli.
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I've never heard of a race cut bib short. Do they come with less padding up front?

I do like the fit of the race cut jerseys though. They don't sag in the rear once you load the pockets like some jerseys makers...*cough* Castelli.
I think they just trow a "XL" size tag on a real medium pair. It's slimmer cut like the jersey but these XLs are really snug. Same padding but it's so tight through the crotch it looks like a female camel toe with one side a little larger from your moose knuckle
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I understand that resellers may recommend true size to ensure purchase satisfaction and reduce return rate.

But why in Bob's name do manufacturers recommend to upsize or downsize. If I make bibs/jerseys/not-bibs...I wouldn't tell my traditional "M" buyers to size up to "L" for a certain class of apparel.....I'd, you know, relabel the damn thing

Some **** out there just make no cents.
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Originally Posted by milkbaby
I bet race cut means the length/height may be similar to their regular cut but maybe smaller in diameter/girth for leaner riders.

I would just get what fits and works well on the bike.
ding ding ding.. this sounds like how I would choose to define them. Sizes go up, length the same as regular bibs, but for smaller waists. Though do racers thighs need more room, or does non-racer flab equate fairly well?
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