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I guess I'm a steelhead

Old 06-02-16, 08:49 AM
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I guess I'm a steelhead

So, I LOVE my Giramondo. And the 44 tooth on the 11/32 and I get along like peas and carrots.
It's my favorite bike now. In second place is my roadbike only because it's lighter (aluminum) so it's good for recovery rides. But honestly, if I wanted to I could drag butt on the Masi.

The flip side is, it's not very snappy when it comes to quick acceleration and a bit more work on hills.

It is all day comfy.

I'm not likely to buy a custom frame and do a build up. I want a little lighter and a bit more snap but I'm sticking with steel. Also, wider tires rule!

These are the ones I'm considering:

Salsa colossal
Jamis Quest elite
Kona roadhouse
Masi Randonnuer
Does anyone have particular input regarding carbon fork vs steel on a steel frame ride wise?

Thanks for everyone's .02
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Old 06-02-16, 11:06 AM
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Sounds fishy.
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Steelhead is delicious.
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I have the Jamis Quest Comp from 2015. It has a carbon fork, which I like, and which has plenty of clearance for 30-32mm tires....HOWEVER, the chainstay clearance looks like it only has room for 28mm tires as an absolute maximum...I've only used 25s on it.

I'm happy enough with it that I hope to keep it as my only bicycle for fast group rides, commuting, and family rides for the next 5-20 yrs.
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Ritchey for the win.
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A carbon fork on a steel frame makes a noticeable difference in comfort on longer rides. It damps road vibration. It especially makes a difference compared to straight steel forks. It'll save you a pound & a half or so on weight, too.
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Originally Posted by intransit1217
I guess I'm a steelhead
More like a rainbow trout that hasn't left it's stream yet...
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Originally Posted by vinfix
A carbon fork on a steel frame makes a noticeable difference in comfort on longer rides. It damps road vibration. It especially makes a difference compared to straight steel forks. It'll save you a pound & a half or so on weight, too.
My experience with this is different. I found the curved steel forks on both my Giordana's offer more comfort and/or compliance and any of the CF forks on my other steel or titanium rides. That said, right now my 89 Greg Lemond Ventoux is a far bit harsher on the front even when I took it out with GP 4000s 700 x 28c tires. I use that as an example because both Giordana's and this Greg Lemond bike were made by the Billato Brothers. The Lemond's fork has less curve so maybe that is the difference.

As comparison, I have a CF fork on my Lynskey R265, and my 2003 LeMond Tourmelet and don't find them as comfortable as the steel ones. But I think it's more a combination of factors more so than just the material the fork is made from. So test ride if you can.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
Ritchey for the win.
The Ritchey Swiss Cross Disc frameset looks really good. But its gonna come out a lot more than the OP's Masi since its almost $1100 for the frame and fork alone. Only two minor beefs with the Masi are I would be between a S and M top tube wise. Also the sloping top tube seems a bit much. It seems to require a really long seatpost in a smaller size or not much saddle to bar drop in a larger one.

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Originally Posted by ptempel
The Ritchey Swiss Cross Disc frameset looks really good. But its gonna come out a lot more than the OP's Masi since its almost $1100 for the frame and fork alone. Only two minor beefs with the Masi are I would be between a S and M top tube wise. Also the sloping top tube seems a bit much. It seems to require a really long seatpost in a smaller size or not much saddle to bar drop in a larger one.
Where was a price limitation mentioned?
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
Where was a price limitation mentioned?
True, no price limit or budget mentioned. Just mentioned the price since it puts the Ritchie into another class of bike by the time you build it up. Also may not be a fair comaprison to the Masi above. But if the OP is ok with doubling the price of the current bike, or willing to reuse components for the build then all systems are go!
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Is it possible to buy a snappy steel frame or is custom the best way to go here? I have been reading reviews and it seems that the usually off-the-shelf ones are comfy but a bit heavy-feeling and mushy.
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Originally Posted by Chandne
Is it possible to buy a snappy steel frame or is custom the best way to go here? I have been reading reviews and it seems that the usually off-the-shelf ones are comfy but a bit heavy-feeling and mushy.
It's impossible to generalize like that. It depends on the tubing and components, both of which have you can find a lot of variability in both custom and production options.

Having said that, there aren't a ton of production options that offer tubing that can be used in very thin gauges (like 853, 953, XCR, etc...) so as to make them light, so it might be easier just to drop the money on custom to get really light OS tubing. The only current production (not custom or semi-custom) 853 frame I can think of is the Kona Roadhouse. I know that past Jamis Sputnik models have also used 853, as well as 90s Schwinn Pelotons and a few Lemond models of the past.

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