RetroDork

Long story short, I have a race on Saturday, and it looks like it will be raining. I have slicks on my bike now and was going to buy some new tires for the race.
Do I need tread for he rain? Or can I just run the slicks and be OK? I hit 30MPH+ pretty easily on a short downhill and there's a sharp turn at the bottom of that hill...

RPK79

They should be fine. If anything they're probably better in the rain.

Tires with Smooth Tread by Jobst Brandt

therhodeo

A race race? Or a t-shirt "race"?

Walter

I'm assuming we're talking about road tires, 23-25 or so? If that's the issue then the answer is not very. Bicycles are not very prone to hydro-planing so treads or lack thereof is not that significant. I've heard some say tread on road tires is strictly for sales appeal. I do't know about that but ending up on the pavement due to hydroplaning is not a concern.

Of course a road at the beginning of a rain tends to be oily but treads won't help you a whole lot there either.

silversx80

Just be careful on paint and you'll be fine.

79pmooney

A much bigger factor is the rubber compound. Some rubbers are grippy when wet, some are very slippery. In my experience: Vittoria Open Paves are an excellent wet road tire, even when worn. Panaracer Pacelas are mediocre. The Vittoria Rubinos of 10-15 years ago were treacherous. (I believe they are far better now though the Rubinos I rode the 2010 Cycle Oregon on were just so-so. But excellent re: goatheads; the reason I was riding them.)

In my racing days many years ago, I rode my first real race on the orange treaded ribbed Vittoria sewups. That race was as wet as it gets. I felt like I was riding on ice even though the tires were not worn.

Ben

cave12man

Always loved this article by Sheldon.

Bicycle Tires and Tubes

A longish read but pretty interesting. Scroll down to "Tread Patterns". Rubber compound and make-up will always make a difference, but the bit about slick tires v treaded tires always amazed me.

Clipped_in

It can be a good idea to let a little air out of your tires...

CafeVelo

I'm always amazed how many first time road bike customers are thoroughly convinced they'll go careening off the road at the slightest provocation unless they have ample tread and tire volume.

caloso

Tread is pretty meaningless on a bike tire. Regardless, take it easy on your 30mph downhill turn on wet pavement.

Elvo

Switch to pro 4 grip

Wheever

Also be careful on manhole covers and the like. They get slippery as **** in the rain.

merlinextraligh

Run lower pressure than normal, about 10 lbs down to get a bigger contact patch.

And attack. Many people don't like to race in the rain, and are timid. Go hard from the gun and make them pay. It also ends up being safer because you thin the race.

dbf73

unless you run pressures just above where pinch flats start

merlinextraligh

One more reason to race on tubulars

dim

get Schwalbe Durano plus .... they grip well in wet and dry, (and you won't get punctures)

rmfnla

I don't think this will help...

rmfnla

Here we go...

PaulRivers

Like other people said, tread is fairly useless for rain. You definitely do not want knobby tires.

However, rubber compound makes a pretty big difference. I know the Continental gp4000's have a pretty good reputation for staying grippy on the road in the rain. You will need to be a little more cautious in handling than usual no matter what the tire, but a slick tire with a good rubber compound for rain is what I would do.

BillyD

At every opportunity.

GravelMN

You've gotten some good advice.

- Treaded tires offer no more traction on solid surfaces in wet conditions than do slicks of the same size.
- A slight reduction in pressure or going one size larger in tire (like 23 > 25 or 25 > 28) will give you a larger patch size which may help some in cornering, but not much.
- Avoid metal surfaces, painted stripes and the oily center of roadway lanes as they offer much less traction when wet. If you must cross them, avoid cornering or braking if at all possible.
- No matter how fast you are, you WILL NOT HYDROPLANE on a roadbike tire. You may hit a slick surface but you cannot hydroplane, there is simply too much weight over too small of an area, at too low of a speed. If I recall correctly, a 150-pound rider on 25mm tires would have to exceed 120 mph to be at risk of hydroplaning.

RPK79

Very possible if you're truly laying down the watts.

therhodeo

This. Just don't drope the hamer.

2manybikes

I did that yesterday.

merlinextraligh

Have you raced in the rain?

Reduced air pressure is the time honored approach to racing in the rain. It's been the accepted wisdom for at least 50 years.
https://www.active.com/cycling/articl...re-in-the-rain

https://trainright.com/trainright-now...t-safely-rain/

And as for blowing off the tubular comment, there is a decided advantage to racing on tubulars in the rain. In addition to all the reasons to prefer racing on tubulars in general, the ability to run low air pressure without pinch flatting is particularly advantageous in the rain.