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How much is speed worth to you?

Old 06-29-16, 12:54 PM
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How much is speed worth to you?

Let's say there was a non debatable, proven product that would add a certain speed per $ spent. Kind of like the weight weenie $/gram figures.


How much would you pay to gain an average mile per hour?


Not using doping or a motor, but some watt saving tech?
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Old 06-29-16, 01:07 PM
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Just more hard work and pain. That's what speed is worth to me.
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Old 06-29-16, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
I said non debatable.


Time saved in an all out TT in the best case scenario is hardly "non-debatable"..
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Old 06-29-16, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
I already paid for all of this stuff. (I actually use it to race TTs) I'm already rolling on ceramic bearings and tubular tires, and I even have the oversized pulley wheels on my RD. I've eliminated the bike being the limitation so I just work on my power and positioning. I wish I could buy some better genes. Is it too late to ask for new parents?
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I don't want speed I didn't earn so I wouldn't pay for it. However, every time I met someone faster than me I would just assume they paid for it.
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Old 06-29-16, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by RPK79 View Post
I don't want speed I didn't earn so I wouldn't pay for it. However, every time I met someone faster than me I would just assume they paid for it.
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Originally Posted by K.Katso View Post
I already paid for all of this stuff. (I actually use it to race TTs) I'm already rolling on ceramic bearings and tubular tires, and I even have the oversized pulley wheels on my RD. I've eliminated the bike being the limitation so I just work on my power and positioning. I wish I could buy some better genes. Is it too late to ask for new parents?
You have to wonder (based on these figures) why you'll see aero front/disc rear on a guys bike... who isn't wearing a TT suit.
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i dont want to ride faster on the flats. just to struggle less on the climbs
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Originally Posted by RPK79 View Post
I don't want speed I didn't earn so I wouldn't pay for it. However, every time I met someone faster than me I would just assume they paid for it.
You don't have a job that earns money?
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Originally Posted by 69chevy View Post
You have to wonder (based on these figures) why you'll see aero front/disc rear on a guys bike... who isn't wearing a TT suit.
I do it on training rides because my suit doesn't have pockets for things like keys, phone, spare tire, etc. In a race I don't need any of that though. At my races I do see a lot of people with different combinations of equipment though, like an aero helmet but no shoe covers, or perhaps they are wearing a normal jersey and shorts. I'm guessing that cost is a factor, as suits are typically about 300 bucks and you can pick up a cheap TT helmet for about 150. Shoe covers are cheap though.
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Originally Posted by 2lo8 View Post
You don't have a job that earns money?
I do, but if my goal was to just go as fast as possible I'd just drive my car or buy a motorcycle. Cycling is an outlet to push my personal physical limits. I want to get faster, but I want to get faster not purchase speed.

You can go buy one of those hidden motors if that's your thing.
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Originally Posted by 69chevy View Post
I said non debatable.

Time saved in an all out TT in the best case scenario is hardly "non-debatable"..
What's your definition of non-debatable? I think it's pretty clear that aerobars improve your speed/efficiency, whether you're going all-out in a TT or just out for a nice ride.
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
The time savings are presumably for a specific distance -- do you know what it is?
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Originally Posted by 69chevy View Post
I said non debatable.


Time saved in an all out TT in the best case scenario is hardly "non-debatable"..
If you don't want to know the best case scenario, scale all the numbers back by 20 %. Shoe covers still save you more time/watts than an aero frame. For $200 vs $2,000. It won't tell you how much anybody is willing to pay for 1 mph, but you look at their performance relative to one another, you have some idea what they all cost, you know which ones you'd be willing to shell out for and which you aren't ... gets you closer to a meaningful answer, I think.
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe View Post
The time savings are presumably for a specific distance -- do you know what it is?
I don't but I would guess 40 km?
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You must be pretty fast to have to scale the numbers back by 20%, given that time savings for aero equipment over a given distance go down the faster you are.
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Isn't there some debate about the effectiveness of shoe covers? I remember reading about it, most likely in the 33.
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
Better yet, buy a recumbent.

A good TT setup can't touch the aerodynamics of a lowracer, or even a highracer that's been set up properly.
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Why not a velomobile?
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I'm not sure how much I would pay to go faster, but I would pay any amount for a comfortable saddle...
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Old 06-29-16, 02:12 PM
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The solution to that is also recumbent/velomobile.
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Old 06-29-16, 02:18 PM
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Isn't there some debate about the effectiveness of shoe covers? I remember reading about it, most likely in the 33.
There's debate about all of this stuff.
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