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Old 07-02-16, 07:39 AM
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I generally wave to most cyclists going the opposite way, and offer a verbal greeting to those going my way as I go past them.

Shirtless guys with homemade aero bars on their hybrid scare me, though. I try to keep my distance and avoid eye contact.




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I generally wave to most cyclists going the opposite way, and offer a verbal greeting to those going my way as I go past them.

Shirtless guys with homemade aero bars on their hybrid scare me, though. I try to keep my distance and avoid eye contact.




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I generally wave to most cyclists going the opposite way, and offer a verbal greeting to those going my way as I go past them.

Shirtless guys with homemade aero bars on their hybrid scare me, though. I try to keep my distance and avoid eye contact.




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Thanks to all for the well wishes for my father. I'm confident that he will recover fine. He's a tough old fart.

There are certain things that 80 year olds should not do. Walking around on boat ramps wearing flip flops is one of them.
Agree. Also thanks for confirming we can say fart. You never know with the ****ing censor what is allowed and what is not. It's funny because as a child, growing up in my house, the word fart was considered as bad a swear word as the other two "usual" four letter words. How ****ed up is that?
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Also thanks for confirming we can say fart.
Always glad to help.
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Hey Doug, you've been doing olympic trials?
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Hey Doug, you've been doing olympic trials?
No. Officiating Olympic Trials is by invitation. USA Swimming takes a very careful look at officials and makes the selection, then extends invitations to those officials.
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I have homework that's due in one day, fourteen hours. I was thinking that if I finished it by noon then I could ride to the Bike & Trike and get some coffee. (I have not made coffee here in order to serve as greater incentive.) But... I can still do my homework tomorrow, however, tomorrow the B&T will be closed and there will be no incentive to ride there. Plus the traffic will be worse at noon than it is now. Decisions, decisions.
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No. Officiating Olympic Trials is by invitation. USA Swimming takes a very careful look at officials and makes the selection, then extends invitations to those officials.
So just curious. What violations do judges watch for, other than false starts and staying in your lane? I noticed in the olympic trials they take a close look at the turns. What about the turns, exactly, makes for a violation?
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So just curious. What violations do judges watch for, other than false starts and staying in your lane? I noticed in the olympic trials they take a close look at the turns. What about the turns, exactly, makes for a violation?
It depends on which stroke the swimmers are doing.

For the Breaststroke and the Butterfly, the swimmers have to touch the wall with both hands simultaneously. After they make a legal touch, they can turn in any manner they desire, when the feet leave the wall, their shoulders must be past vertical toward the breast. So, in those two strokes, it could be a one hand touch or a non-simultaneous touch and/or shoulders past vertical toward the back after the feet left the wall.

The Backstroke is a bit more tricky. At the turns, the swimmer may elect to roll over to the breast and make a single arm pull or a simultaneous double arm pull after which the swimmer must execute the flip turn, the turn requires continuous motion with not delays. If the swimmer rolls to the breast, extends the arm and delays pulling the arm back it is a violation. If the swimmer rolls to the breast extends the arm, pulls the arm back and locks the arm at the side for an extended period, violation. If the swimmer rolls to the breast and executes more than one arm pull, violation. In addition, after executing a legal turn in the Backstroke, after the feet leave the wall the shoulders must be past vertical toward the back.
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Being selected to officiate USA Swimming Olympic trails would be similar to being selected to officiate the Super Bowl. You put in a lot of time, you travel to a lot of big meets to be seen and get your name out. You work your way up. For me, officiating at the Arena Pro meet in early June was the first step. That was the first "National Meet" that I have worked.
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So just curious. What violations do judges watch for, other than false starts and staying in your lane? I noticed in the olympic trials they take a close look at the turns. What about the turns, exactly, makes for a violation?
I'm not him, but I used to do Masters' meets. On the turns, the big thing would be missing the wall (but that stops you cold anyway). Going off the wall, breaststroke used to restrict how you could kick off the wall underwater (no dolphin kick), but I think that's changed since. Besides turns and starts, the three non-freestyle strokes have restrictions about how you can do them (no hint of flutter-kick, even just in your feet, on butterfly, for example).

And some of the strokes require two hands on the wall, simultaneously, for the turn.

I'd have more detail if I had ever competed at anything besides freestyle, but none of my other strokes would pass muster at all in front of a judge.
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Great ride today with two friends, 30ish miles with 3000ish ft climbing. These are some of my casual cycling friends but we've done some pretty epic stuff together. I was feeling pretty good and climbing well and one of my friends has lost a little fitness and gained a little weight and was doing fine but today was not his day. I stopped to take a pic and had to work a little to catch the boys near the top of the climb and by the time I caught them, I was stepping lively. So I just kept going and blew past them.

Quote of the day from my struggling friend was "F-you, Heathpack". Lol.

Here is a pic from whence we came. From my house I can ride here, into Angeles National Forest, up to (fire) Camp 9 or we can take a different route and ride over Dillon Divide and then down into the San Fernando Valley. Just really lucky to have this at my doorstep.

Also saw a bunch of people I knew, they were coming up as we were descending, two different groups. Nice to be home and hear "Hi Heathpack" just riding around. Then coming home through our final canyon, I saw one of my Nightcrawler friends. Had to hump it to catch him so that we could get him to come to coffee with us, which was the cherry on the top of a kind of perfect morning.

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I'm not him, but I used to do Masters' meets. On the turns, the big thing would be missing the wall (but that stops you cold anyway). Going off the wall, breaststroke used to restrict how you could kick off the wall underwater (no dolphin kick), but I think that's changed since. Besides turns and starts, the three non-freestyle strokes have restrictions about how you can do them (no hint of flutter-kick, even just in your feet, on butterfly, for example).

And some of the strokes require two hands on the wall, simultaneously, for the turn.

I'd have more detail if I had ever competed at anything besides freestyle, but none of my other strokes would pass muster at all in front of a judge.
The Breaststroke changed several years ago. The swimmer may execute a single butterfly kick, which must be followed by a Breaststroke kick. Additionally, the Breaststroke is cyclic, one arm pull, one leg kick in that order.

Here is a link to the rule book. The "Blue" section contains the technical rules for each stroke beginning on page 19 and going through 23.

https://www.usaswimming.org/_Rainbow/...20Rulebook.pdf

Here is a link to the training video that we use at the "New Official Clinic"

USA Swimming - Officials Training Videos
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I'd have more detail if I had ever competed at anything besides freestyle, but none of my other strokes would pass muster at all in front of a judge.
You might be surprised. I've seen a lot of officials miss a lot of obvious violations.
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22 miler this morning to clear my head and it was amazing. Drove to my old house in the 'burbs and took the bike straight to the beach on some back roads with rolling hills. Low 70s, little humidity, and less traffic. Truly one of those days that just comes together and makes you happy.

I hope everyone else had a wonderful morning! Now on to UEFA and Germany v. Italy. This is just going to be a great weekend.
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Had a great ride with my Saturday group. 37.8 mi at a steady 18 mph. Enjoyable.
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Great ride for me this morning too. Unfortunately it is now raining and it is supposed to rain all day tomorrow, so probably no morning group ride.
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Great ride for me this morning too. Unfortunately it is now raining and it is supposed to rain all day tomorrow, so probably no morning group ride.
Why? Will you melt?
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Also had a great ride today with a couple teammates. And look who I managed to beat on a local segment-



I guess you could say it's getting pretty serious.
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Short ride this morning followed up with a family outing. We walked/balance biked around the river downtown and went to an eastern European place for lunch. I didn't want topslop to lose his ish, so I decided not to picture the Romanian meatball, Hungarian sausage, goulash or potato leek soup.
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Rode downtown to get coffee even though I hadn't done my homework. Probably did about three miles because I got lost. Rode across the bike/pedestrian bridge and only ran into the fencing along the sides of it once each way. (Don't look where you don't want to go. LOL) Rode through the pedestrian/bike tunnel like a champ and even made it partway up the hill on the other side but it was kind of twisty and I didn't have enough momentum. Next time. Finally, arrived at the bike shop/coffee shop just in time to see a woman walking back to her truck. Unbelievably, they are closed today. It boggles my mind that a bike shop would be closed the Saturday of a three-day weekend.

On the way home, I encountered two of my co-workers and expressed my incredulity. They said "Yeah. You probably won't find hardly anything open in town. It's a three-day weekend." I said "Yes, but they could be selling bikes!" "They don't care. They want to be drinking beer like everybody else." I shouldn't have been surprised, I guess, since they closed a lot of the city buildings on Good Friday and many others took a half day so they could start Easter weekend early. How can you run a town or a business if everybody just wants to close up and drink beer?

And now I should make coffee here at home and actually do my assignment. At least, I got a few miles in and some sunshine. Plus I rode through a tunnel-type thing.

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Why? Will you melt?
I won't, I plan to ride. Unfortunately I fear I might be the only one.
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Also had a great ride today with a couple teammates. And look who I managed to beat on a local segment-



I guess you could say it's getting pretty serious.
So that's why he's not on the Tour this year. Makes sense.
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Also had a great ride today with a couple teammates. And look who I managed to beat on a local segment-



I guess you could say it's getting pretty serious.
That was his cool down.
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