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Holdsworth columbus SL - is this a good deal?

Old 07-12-16, 01:05 AM
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Holdsworth Steel columbus SL - is this a good deal?

I've never heard of Holdsworth before, don't really like the orange color and the huge sloping TT, but for a Columbus SL tubing & under $700 is this a good deal?

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Orange is the new red. Holdsworth was once a top British mark. Planet-X has bought the rights.



73 model belonging to somebody I know.


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If it were really Columbus SL, I would say that it isn't close to worth the money. That is very mundane tubing by modern standards, just basic chrome-moly. But it is Spirit SL, a considerably more upscale material. That is probably a fair price for what looks like a very nice frame.
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$760 shipped to U.S. sounds like a great deal. The Wabi Lightning made from Spirit tubing is $1100 for example. And they probably are the same frame since I'm sure they are both built in Taiwan
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Looks like a good option!
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But it's orange. What good is a light/stiff/comfortable/whatever frame if it makes you feel self conscious and miserable riding it? It's not like you're Eddy
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But it's orange. What good is a light/stiff/comfortable/whatever frame if it makes you feel self conscious and miserable riding it? It's not like you're Eddy
If guys don't feel self conscious in pink, why should they in orange?

Oh wait, you got me, huh? That was a good one, I went for it. Lol
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$760 shipped to U.S. sounds like a great deal. The Wabi Lightning made from Spirit tubing is $1100 for example. And they probably are the same frame since I'm sure they are both built in Taiwan
The Holdsworth price is just for the frame. The Wabi Lightning SE price you quoted is for a complete bike. The Lightning SE frame-only price is $775 plus shipping, including frame, carbon fiber fork, and headset.

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The Holdsworth price is just for the frame. The Wabi Lightning SE price you quoted is for a complete bike. The Lightning SE frame-only price is $775 plus shipping, including frame, carbon fiber fork, and headset.

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no it's not, $691.99 for the Holdsworth Competition Frameset, frameset = frame + fork
the Wabi is $1100 for the frameset only, while a full bike cost $1950
Wabi Cycles Lightning SE fixed gear bike specs
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the Wabi is $1100 for the frameset only, while a full bike cost $1950
Yes, you're right. For some reason I was giving the Lighting SE (fixed gear) pricing. That's a fantastic price!
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Originally Posted by bleui View Post
no it's not, $691.99 for the Holdsworth Competition Frameset, frameset = frame + fork
the Wabi is $1100 for the frameset only, while a full bike cost $1950
Wabi Cycles Lightning SE fixed gear bike specs
$1950 with microshift
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Not even the new srampagnolo Microshift
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I just ordered one of these frames without too much hesitation, mostly because it's so cheap for Columbus Spirit.

They're on sale for 500 pounds at Planet X, but I wasn't charged VAT, which dropped the price to 416 GBP, which is $521 USD.
I had to pay 89 GBP shipping from the UK to Australia, but Planet says that shipping to the US is 50 pounds with DHL

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The more I look at this frame, the more I like it. Threaded BSA BB, Spirit tubing, Breezer-style rear dropout, standard 27.2 seatpost, all external cabling... I even like the two color options. Basically perfect for me and at $567 a real deal. If I were looking for a traditional steel road frame right now, I'd get this.
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That looks like a sweet frame at a great price. Will this dethrone the Breezer Venturi as the favorite BF budget steel steed?
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That looks like a sweet frame at a great price. Will this dethrone the Breezer Venturi as the favorite BF budget steel steed?
Not unless they cut 2/3 off the price. And not unless we can find a lot wrong with it. Nobody seems to want a frame that fits anymore.
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It's traditional in ways, but less so in other ways. The top tube is ovalised, the downtube is large and somehwat squoval tward the bottom half, and the steerer is tapered to a 1.5" lower headset bearing. The seat stays are also a slightly unusual shape

The slight squareness in the down tube can just be seen in this photo

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They look as though they're built for stiffness rather than lightness. It's not particularly light
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Oh no!! Fast delivery from Planet X, but they sent me the wrong size: an XL instead of a large. I unpacked it and weighed it before I realized.

The bare XL (59cm effective top tube and 195mm head tube) is 1890g!! Hmm, I've got old 531 frames a little lighter than that.

The tubes are bigger than I expected.

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73 model belonging to somebody I know.


I used to have a 73 Holdsworth. Campy Record end-to-end. Loved it ... until a truck drove over it and (nearly) me. I got off lucky. The Holdsworth ... not so much. It was replaced with a 74 Carlton Professional.
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Oh no!! Fast delivery from Planet X, but they sent me the wrong size: an XL instead of a large. I unpacked it and weighed it before I realized.

The bare XL (59cm effective top tube and 195mm head tube) is 1890g!! Hmm, I've got old 531 frames a little lighter than that.

The tubes are bigger than I expected.
Aside from them sending the wrong size are you happy with the paint finish and build quality?
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Aside from them sending the wrong size are you happy with the paint finish and build quality?
Yep, the paint looks fantastic, and the welds look good to me, but I'm no expert. The bb threads also look pretty good

No headset or seat collar, which is a minor disappointment.
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Oh no!! Fast delivery from Planet X, but they sent me the wrong size: an XL instead of a large. I unpacked it and weighed it before I realized.

The bare XL (59cm effective top tube and 195mm head tube) is 1890g!! Hmm, I've got old 531 frames a little lighter than that.

The tubes are bigger than I expected.
Including fork or not. My 531 is 2200 g just for the bare frame.
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Including fork or not. My 531 is 2200 g just for the bare frame.
Nup, without the fork. My 1988 Raleigh 531c is 1865g without the fork. 58cm
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