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Old 08-02-16, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by CafeVelo View Post
How long does it usually take to hear back? I sent workswell an email yesterday and have yet to get a reply?
The time difference can put a hitch is communications.

Try Jerry, sales02@workswellbikes.com. He very easy to deal with and quick with replies.
You can Skype with him as well, workswell-02. You're in the eastern time zone so maybe 7:00-8:00pm+ on to Skype.
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Yeah, the 12-hour time difference slows things up a bit.
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I can't answer for her, but the difference between BB30 and BCA is only in the diameter of the opening and the absence/presence of the threads. But BBright features an assymetric shell offset to the NDS. I don't think you could easily have a BBright version and a BB30 version. I have never seen BB30 offered in any advertisement on ebay, Alibaba, or the Workswell site for the -066 model. I think she is fairly new and may be confused.
Well if you have another contact I should be talking to please let me know
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Originally Posted by CafeVelo View Post
How long does it usually take to hear back? I sent workswell an email yesterday and have yet to get a reply?
Hey CV,

I spoke to my contact this morning and asked her about a 58cm frame size for the WCB-R-066 and she said " Thank you for share frame information with your friend, I'm afraid R-066 frame only has 51/54/56 cm size .

Another frame WCB-R-085, which is similar with WCB-R-066, has 58cm size, if he interest, he could visit our website (Endurance-workswellbikes) and see the detail images and geometry of WCB-R-085."

Hope this helps.
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Well if you have another contact I should be talking to please let me know
She replaced the guy I was using. They don't last long. In China as soon as an employee extracts some experience and training from an employer, their worth to other companies increases several fold. So Chinese white-collar workers don't stay with the same company very long. There are too many opportunities elsewhere.
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She replaced the guy I was using. They don't last long. In China as soon as an employee extracts some experience and training from an employer, their worth to other companies increases several fold. So Chinese white-collar workers don't stay with the same company very long. There are too many opportunities elsewhere.
Now your making me nervous. Of course this just after I got confirmation this morning that my frame has been shipped (wooooohooooo!!!!) I should have been dealing with Aubiecat's guy Jerry all along.

Thanks for FREAKING ME OUT! Lol
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Now your making me nervous. Of course this just after I got confirmation this morning that my frame has been shipped (wooooohooooo!!!!) I should have been dealing with Aubiecat's guy Jerry all along.

Thanks for FREAKING ME OUT! Lol
For all we know, Jerry may be history by now too. It's all good.
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For all we know, Jerry may be history by now too. It's all good.
OMG...they're dropping like flies! Henny Penny the sky is falling! lol
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Originally Posted by clubber View Post
Hey CV,

I spoke to my contact this morning and asked her about a 58cm frame size for the WCB-R-066 and she said " Thank you for share frame information with your friend, I'm afraid R-066 frame only has 51/54/56 cm size .

Another frame WCB-R-085, which is similar with WCB-R-066, has 58cm size, if he interest, he could visit our website (Endurance-workswellbikes) and see the detail images and geometry of WCB-R-085."

Hope this helps.
Thanks, for some reason nobody is getting to me yet. Either way the 066 was the only frame I wanted of the lot, most lack enough reach or have other geometry issues, have alloy inserts, or weigh a ton. That's disappointing.
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Thanks, for some reason nobody is getting to me yet. Either way the 066 was the only frame I wanted of the lot, most lack enough reach or have other geometry issues, have alloy inserts, or weigh a ton. That's disappointing.
What about other brands?
Hong fu FM-066 and FM-079 have very good reviews.
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Not much fits the bill. Alloy inserts again. So many of these Chinese frames have short reach for a 58, I'd end up with a 140mm or longer stem. The other workswell has a really long wheelbase too. I suppose I'll wait till I've got cash for a major brand frame or one of these factories releases something in my size.
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2013 new road HF-FM066 Might be metal in the bottom bracket, can’t tell ... but i don’t see metal in the dropouts or headset. Weight is about the same as the WW-066 and it comes in a wide range of sizes. There is also a superlight option. I hear this is a clone of a Cannondale Super Six. Lots of happy customers on WeightWeenie.com

2014 full carbon Road Frame FM296 Also very light, and up to 58 cm ... might have alloy dropouts

2014 full carbon Road Frame FM296 Same as above.

I don’t see where it says there are inserts, but if you say so ... I know the folks at WeightWeenies have been buying these frames for years and loving them.

My favorite: 2014 Super Light full carbon Road Frame

Lightest of the bunch, reach doesn’t seem abnormally short or long. I think it is a Canyon copy ... I really like the look and the weight--920 grams for a size 60.

And check outthis Look clone: http://weightweenies.starbike.com/fo...717&start=2175

The guy in this thread (http://weightweenies.starbike.com/fo...p?f=3&t=137599) seems the think the Hong Fu FM169 migth have the characteristics you seek.

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Old 08-03-16, 03:00 AM
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This time I will not feed the troll.
I am SO PROUD of you. Open up for a Scooby snack

Btw...I shot you a PM about Loctite 609
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker View Post
For all we know, Jerry may be history by now too. It's all good.
Jerry is still there. He just sent me a Workswell catalog a few days ago. I just checked Skype and he is online. That guy works some insane hours.
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I just noticed Workswell has a new endurance frame model for 2017 on their website. It's just a CAD model they are busy designing new frames.
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Jerry is still there. He just sent me a Workswell catalog a few days ago. I just checked Skype and he is online. That guy works some insane hours.
Whew! That's a relief.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker View Post
Whew! That's a relief.
Yeah I shot him an email this morn. It seems the more I talk with this Iris the worst her english gets. I was inquiring about the price I paid ($487 shipped).

I had a quick question about the Loctite to get for the BB. According the other thread I can use 609, 641, or 680 and use the 7649 primer/activator with any one of the three.

The description for the 7649 says to use specifically with the 680 so my question is which would be the best to use between 609, 641, or 680?
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Yeah I shot him an email this morn. It seems the more I talk with this Iris the worst her english gets. I was inquiring about the price I paid ($487 shipped).

I had a quick question about the Loctite to get for the BB. According the other thread I can use 609, 641, or 680 and use the 7649 primer/activator with any one of the three.

The description for the 7649 says to use specifically with the 680 so my question is which would be the best to use between 609, 641, or 680?
My advice is to look them up on the Loctite (Henkel I think) site. Definitely use 609. There are at least three primers. I think all of them will work with 609, but see what the site says for compatibility. There are charts of the products that give that information. Here is what you are looking for: http://catalogs.na.henkel-adhesives....gt=11&lang=enu

Any of the three primers will work with 609. These products are hard to find in small, consumer quantities and they are expensive. My best deal was on Amazon. One place that I did find them in Houston was Grainger industrial supply company, but the quantities were bigger than I wanted.
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My advice is to look them up on the Loctite (Henkel I think) site. Definitely use 609. There are at least three primers. I think all of them will work with 609, but see what the site says for compatibility. There are charts of the products that give that information. Here is what you are looking for: http://catalogs.na.henkel-adhesives....gt=11&lang=enu

Any of the three primers will work with 609. These products are hard to find in small, consumer quantities and they are expensive. My best deal was on Amazon. One place that I did find them in Houston was Grainger industrial supply company, but the quantities were bigger than I wanted.
Alrighty then. I have confirmed the from your link (thanks btw) and the BBright site that the 7649 primer will be fine for the 609 adhesive. I already had them sitting in my Amazon cart so Ill go ahead and pull the trigger. Thanks again for confirming the 609 for me. They all come in small quantities on Amazon now and if not I have a Grainger a mile up the street from my house.
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i had a dengfu fm098 for a while. (look for my review on it)

in my opinion, it's better to get a well designed alloy frame than an off brand carbon frame. The manufacturing process is pretty crucial, and I'm not very impressed with the quality control of these chinese carbon frames.
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i had a dengfu fm098 for a while. (look for my review on it)

in my opinion, it's better to get a well designed alloy frame than an off brand carbon frame. The manufacturing process is pretty crucial, and I'm not very impressed with the quality control of these chinese carbon frames.
Funny, to my eye, mine is excellent.
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Funny, to my eye, mine is excellent.

Yup, my Workswell is pretty bad ass! It looks good everywhere inside the frame that I could see.
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What was that saying about opinions? I always forget how that goes. Oh look...a puppy!

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quality of a carbon frame is not something you see by looking at it..
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quality of a carbon frame is not something you see by looking at it..
Maybe you should enlighten us on what exactly you weren't happy about?
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