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Old 07-13-16, 10:56 AM
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Garmin 820

Who's interested and why. I am. It looks to have all the features I need.

Form factor of the 520 with touchscreen and newer user interface.

https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2016/07/garmin-edge-820.html

I currently have the 500 and like the livetrack feature and the advanced mapping options.

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I am, because my 800 has been a fantastic computer, but after being hit by a car my girlfriend really wants me to get the Varia radar thing, and my 800 doesn't support it.

Edit: Just read the review. Has some neat stuff, but radar support is really the only reason I'm considering it. The recovery advisor is cool but I've had that in my watch for a year and a half. Group stalk sounds very cool but I ride solo. Already have maps in my 800. Won't use the phone integration because I already have it in my watch. Won't even upload rides from it because I already have that in my watch.

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Screen is still very low resolution at 200x265 pixels. More detail would be nice for maps.
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Screen is still very low resolution at 200x265 pixels. More detail would be nice for maps.
I agree, but it looks like the map can be zoomed in and one should be able to load OSM maps.
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I have found a problem with Garmin and touchscreens, at least on my Garmin 1000....when I am riding (and this happens more with mountain biking than road riding) and sweating and the sweat drops onto the screen the computer must sense that and eventually switches to a menu where you can pick what you want displayed in that data field. It's the same menu you get when you keep your finger on a data field to switch what is displayed. Happens all the time and I cannot get it to stop. Garmin was not helpful on the problem either. So, every mountain bike ride I get to see this menu instead of my data page I want displayed. Hugely annoying and why my next Garmin, if I get one, will be sans touchscreen.


So no 820 for me.
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Whatever you do, don't buy it till it's been out for a year and at least two software updates have been issued. Garmin makes good gear... eventually.
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Wonder what I can get for my 800?
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I'm in for the maps mainly. I must have the touchscreen so glad they did that. Why can't they improve the resolution and instead insist on being stuck in 2005?
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Sounds like a good upgrade from my 510, I didn't like the 520 since it wasn't touch screen. I'll eventually upgrade but I'm going to wait and let Garmin work out the bugs that WILL be there. Also, I like the incident response but don't like that the reviews are saying it generates a lot of false positives. If it's going to go off when you stop to take pictures or a rest stop and you have to dismiss the alert then people are just going to turn it off.
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I've been waiting for an update to the 810...was thinking about the 1000, but I think the 820 is a nice happy medium, plus I like the smaller size.

Part of the reason I want to update is because my 810 now looks like this...


Apparently, they don't like it when you do this...
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I am, because it's got mapping in the smaller form factor, along with all the other nice features. But I'll wait until someone else beta tests it.
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Yeah, they've got me. I've had the 510 since it was new and have actually loved the touchscreen, so that turned me off to the 520. I could get used to buttons (I had the Edge 200 first), but I really like the touchscreen UI. And I've also been looking at multi-day type events where navigation is critical. The turn by turn feature on the 510 isn't quite cutting it. I was thinking the maps (but no navigation) plus courses on the 520 would work better, but was skeptical. This gives me everything I basically wanted in an upgrade.

Crap. And Garmin has me captive once again.
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Originally Posted by floridamtb View Post
Also, I like the incident response but don't like that the reviews are saying it generates a lot of false positives. If it's going to go off when you stop to take pictures or a rest stop and you have to dismiss the alert then people are just going to turn it off.
Agree.

Originally I thought Live Track would be as much a safety feature as anything else. If I'm lying in a ditch, she'll know where to send the ambulance. But when the cyclist actually hits the road, she's probably not just sitting there watching your dot move across the map. She found out I got hit because I came to and called her on the phone. Now she's nervous about me riding in the city ... and false positives won't help.
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Originally Posted by SpeshulEd View Post
I've been waiting for an update to the 810...was thinking about the 1000, but I think the 820 is a nice happy medium, plus I like the smaller size.

Part of the reason I want to update is because my 810 now looks like this...
you do know that if you send that back to them they will replace it with a completely rebuilt unit that looks new for $99, right?!

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Contemplating... Got 520 few months ago as upgrade from 800 and like it so far... other than lack of micro SD and touch screen. 820 covers one of the issue I have... not the other though.
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Do people really fancy Edge touchscreens? My experience with a 510 touchscreen was mediocre. Tapping works, if not exactly responsive. Swiping different data screens was a nightmare. Much happier now with a 520. Maybe the screens on 800/810 and 1000 (and now 820) are much better? Or more resposive owing to faster SOCs sitting inside?
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Originally Posted by k_kibbler View Post
Do people really fancy Edge touchscreens? My experience with a 510 touchscreen was mediocre. Tapping works, if not exactly responsive. Swiping different data screens was a nightmare. Much happier now with a 520. Maybe the screens on 800/810 and 1000 (and now 820) are much better? Or more resposive owing to faster SOCs sitting inside?
The touchscreen on the 800 works pretty-well. It would be hard to use maps/navigation without a touchscreen.

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Why can't they improve the resolution and instead insist on being stuck in 2005?
Higher resolution consumes more power.

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Originally Posted by njkayaker View Post
The touchscreen on the 800 works pretty-well. It would be hard to use maps/navigation without a touchscreen.


Higher resolution consumes more power.
I guess when battery tech improves much more, then we will get better screen. It isn't unbearable at least. Regarding touch screen, I returned my 520 for the 510. I find that it isn't instantly responsive. You have to either rest your fingertip on the screen for a second or tap/press harder. It isn't bad for me sine I rarely change screens during a ride. It isn't the most responsive but it works for what I do. I have a rubber cover for the 510 but I really need to find a clear screen cover. I'd hate to scratch up the screen badly on a rare mountain bike crash.
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Originally Posted by k_kibbler View Post
Do people really fancy Edge touchscreens? My experience with a 510 touchscreen was mediocre. Tapping works, if not exactly responsive. Swiping different data screens was a nightmare. Much happier now with a 520. Maybe the screens on 800/810 and 1000 (and now 820) are much better? Or more resposive owing to faster SOCs sitting inside?
The one on the 800 works pretty well, rain or shine, with or without the gloves I use. You can swipe from screen to screen pretty easily, and recenter the map while you ride to see what's coming up. It's not like your cell phone where you're pointing at something smaller than your finger.
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Originally Posted by k_kibbler View Post
Do people really fancy Edge touchscreens? My experience with a 510 touchscreen was mediocre. Tapping works, if not exactly responsive. Swiping different data screens was a nightmare. Much happier now with a 520. Maybe the screens on 800/810 and 1000 (and now 820) are much better? Or more resposive owing to faster SOCs sitting inside?
I'm the opposite, the touchscreen works great for me once I learned the proper pressure to use. I'd hate the 520 having to use buttons instead, reminds me of the old T9 texting
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I bought the 510 when it came out a couple of years ago.

I'm still suffering. Not in a good way.
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Originally Posted by FIVE ONE SIX View Post
you do know that if you send that back to them they will replace it with a completely rebuilt unit that looks new for $99, right?!

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Yeah, but I don't really care all that much...I guess if I wanted to resell it, but to pay $100, just to turn around and sell it for $200 seems like a pain. It still works just fine, I can read it as long it's not in the direct sunlight, and personally, I think it looks kind of badass.

I also have a 510 kicking around which I'll probably sell now, keep the 810 for mtbing and use the 820 for the roadie.
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Originally Posted by SpeshulEd View Post
Yeah, but I don't really care all that much...I guess if I wanted to resell it, but to pay $100, just to turn around and sell it for $200 seems like a pain. It still works just fine, I can read it as long it's not in the direct sunlight, and personally, I think it looks kind of badass.

I also have a 510 kicking around which I'll probably sell now, keep the 810 for mtbing and use the 820 for the roadie.
I was just wondering what a used 510 would go for. Probably not a whole lot with both the 520 and 820 out now.
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I'm curious why the hating on the buttons over touchscreen? Setup is a pain, but how often do you need to do anything but press the power and save button after set up?

My 520 is a greasy, nasty mess after every ride with caked on sweat, no idea how touchscreen would work.

I wouldn't mind having maps, though the reality is I don't tour nor do I ride much when out of town.
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