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Newish bike, saddle rails already bent

Old 07-15-16, 03:44 PM
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Newish bike, saddle rails already bent

I finally went in to get fitted on my not even 3 month old bike (1100 miles so far) and my fitter noticed that my saddle was crooked. The rails do not appear to be bent, but what else would case one side to be lower? I highly doubt the rails are the wrong size.

What would cause the saddle (4ZA Cirrus) rails to be already bent? I have no idea how much I weigh, but I would estimate between 160-165 pounds (height doesn't matter, but I'm 6'1"). I go though my fair share of bumps, but the saddle was not abused. It should take more abuse than that.

I do have an old Selle San Marco that I will put on for now until I decide what my next step will be. Too many saddle choices with no way to get a feel for them.

Thanks for listening to me whine.
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Old 07-15-16, 03:58 PM
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My question is was like that when you bought the bike and you just noticed it now.
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Old 07-15-16, 04:04 PM
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I've seen a saddle bent like that when a rider came to a rather rough u-turn stop pedal strike not quite a crash indecent. I think he managed to lever the saddle nose with his thighs until it bent.
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I don't know about the saddle but you must ride A LOT on the tops.
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Old 07-15-16, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by mcours2006 View Post
My question is was like that when you bought the bike and you just noticed it now.
That could very well be the case. Never would have thought to check for something like that.

Because of my prior poor self fitting, I was all over the saddle. Still should not have caused such damage.
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Originally Posted by velociraptor View Post
I don't know about the saddle but you must ride A LOT on the tops.
Nah. It's white tape. It gets dirty easily.
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Could be the saddle mount on seat post?
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Originally Posted by mcours2006 View Post
Nah. It's white tape. It gets dirty easily.
I'm guessing @veliciraptor 's comment was in reference to the cables getting torqued up on one side.

Re the saddle, I'm really surprised you hadn't noticed just siting on the saddle. I'd like to think that I would have noticed a twisted saddle such as that almost immediately, so I personally doubt it came that way originally. More likely something recent. I'm not too familiar with that model, but is it possible one of the rails has begun to pop out of one of the mounting holes? Regardless, I'd contact the manufacturer and inquire about a free replacement if you otherwise like the saddle.
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Originally Posted by mcours2006 View Post
Nah. It's white tape. It gets dirty easily.
I'm guessing @velociraptor 's comment was in reference to the cables getting torqued up on one side.

Re the saddle, I'm really surprised you hadn't noticed just siting on the saddle. I'd like to think that I would have noticed a twisted saddle such as that almost immediately, so I personally doubt it came that way originally. More likely something recent. I'm not too familiar with that model, but is it possible one of the rails has begun to pop out of one of the mounting holes? Regardless, I'd contact the manufacturer and inquire about a free replacement if you otherwise like the saddle.
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Originally Posted by gaucho777 View Post
I'm guessing @velociraptor 's comment was in reference to the cables getting torqued up on one side.
That would be from mounting something to my handlebars. Need tunes while I riding since headphones seems to be verboten to some.

Originally Posted by mcours2006 View Post
Could be the saddle mount on seat post?
Actually, it might be.

I finally had time to remove the saddle and inspect it. Seemed normal. Put on an old saddle that I had, and it is still appear crooked. Difficult to eyeball (and you cannot use a level on a curved surface), but it just seems off! I sighted the saddle by looking at the gap between the handlebar/stem screws and the bottom of the saddle and the gap was slight. Or I am going crazy. The seat post is crooked now?
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I second saddle mount. Looks like the same post I have and when I first installed it, I had the saddle straight but the post crooked. It's kind of a goofy design. Can you check the saddle on another post?
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Old 07-15-16, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by mcours2006 View Post
Could be the saddle mount on seat post?
^ +1 to this.

When the saddle is off the bike (and out of the mount clamp), if the rails/alignment seem OK...
I'd first try to "re-work" the saddle-clamp mount set-up.
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Old 07-15-16, 08:40 PM
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My only other bike is a vintage Bianchi with a completely different seatpost system.

Which part would be the saddle mount? The top portion of the seatpost or the clamps around the saddle rails? Difficult to spot by eye if the seatpost is crooked without a saddle.
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****ty saddle, I bent my first one (I was 200lbs at the time) from just normal riding. buy a nicer one and if it happens on a new one, call the company and complain lol
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Originally Posted by Tycho Brahe View Post
My only other bike is a vintage Bianchi with a completely different seatpost system.

Which part would be the saddle mount? The top portion of the seatpost or the clamps around the saddle rails? Difficult to spot by eye if the seatpost is crooked without a saddle.

Try a different saddle. That should tell you.
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Honestly, though, it shouldn't be that difficult tell what the culprit is. Take the saddle off and place it on a flat, level surface, like a table, and see if it's crooked. Flip it and check again. Examine the rails to see if they are straight.

If the above check out then it's not the saddle. Likely the mount.
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Originally Posted by GeneO View Post
Try a different saddle. That should tell you.
As mentioned above, I already did that.

I put the saddle on a flat surface and measured the gap. It is slightly crooked. As pictured, the right side gap is not as tall. Very small difference. Perhaps once it is mounted, the slope is more pronounced? I then measured the old saddle, which also appeared to be crooked when mounted. It also turned out to be shorter on the same side.

I feel like I am going crazy. Going out for a drink.
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Originally Posted by Tycho Brahe View Post
As mentioned above, I already did that.

I put the saddle on a flat surface and measured the gap. It is slightly crooked. As pictured, the right side gap is not as tall. Very small difference. Perhaps once it is mounted, the slope is more pronounced? I then measured the old saddle, which also appeared to be crooked when mounted. It also turned out to be shorter on the same side.

I feel like I am going crazy. Going out for a drink.
Check the barstool alignment before sitting down.
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Originally Posted by Tycho Brahe View Post
As mentioned above, I already did that.

I put the saddle on a flat surface and measured the gap. It is slightly crooked. As pictured, the right side gap is not as tall. Very small difference. Perhaps once it is mounted, the slope is more pronounced? I then measured the old saddle, which also appeared to be crooked when mounted. It also turned out to be shorter on the same side.

I feel like I am going crazy. Going out for a drink.

Honestly I don't see where you said that. You were asking about the seatpost being off and how to tell and I suggested putting another saddle in it.

Anyway I have a saddle like that - right out of the box I reckon. I couldn't return it though because I got ill and didn't notice until after I picked up from the illness. Just get it replaced, it is pretty off.
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