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is this Kask Protone a fake?

Old 07-19-16, 02:50 PM
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is this Kask Protone a fake?

Hello, do you guys think this is authentic or it could be a chinese fake?

https://www.vibbo.com/guipuzcoa/casco...=0_s&st=a&c=25
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Old 07-19-16, 02:55 PM
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Do we really need another thread?

Ask the seller for a receipt. If it is brand new as claimed he should have it.

Fwiw, it looks legit to me.

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Old 07-19-16, 02:55 PM
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Probably some of the worst photos of "the thing I'm selling" I've seen on a classified ad in a while. What leads you to believe it could be fake?
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Old 07-19-16, 03:23 PM
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Well, it could be a fake, someone selling a fake for twice the price. The seem to be very well made
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Old 07-19-16, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by PepeM View Post
Do we really need another thread?
Is there a shortage of space or something..?
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https://www.merlincycles.com/kask-pr...FYKavAodpgUKoQ

About 220 euros for a brand new one in the colour of your choice without having to worry that it has any crash damage or is filled up with someone else's stinky sweat or is a fake.
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Old 07-19-16, 06:07 PM
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I don't know, but I would check out this thread for some tips, seems relevant-

https://www.bikeforums.net/road-cycli...ke-helmet.html
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Old 07-20-16, 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by maltess2 View Post
Hello, do you guys think this is authentic or it could be a chinese fake?

https://www.vibbo.com/guipuzcoa/casco...=0_s&st=a&c=25
It looks real. I have two Kask helmets (an Infinity and a Bambino) and the markings and packaging look exactly like what that guy has in the pictures. Do you know the story behind why he is selling it? Maybe it just doesn't fit and he can't return it to where he bought it.
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Old 07-20-16, 05:00 AM
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It may not be fake, but it's certainly ugly.
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Originally Posted by Dan333SP View Post
I don't know, but I would check out this thread for some tips, seems relevant-

https://www.bikeforums.net/road-cycli...ke-helmet.html
Good tip.

Would kudo if the forum allowed it.
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Originally Posted by PepeM View Post
Good tip.

Would kudo if the forum allowed it.
Thank. If interests to buy fake Kask Protone, also for sell Tons of carbon wheels. Let's made a deal?
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Old 07-20-16, 08:19 AM
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Is it entry level crabon?
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Old 07-20-16, 11:20 AM
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The bigger question is why would anyone buy a used helmet where you don't know what it went through before you bought it, or if it is a fake? Pony up some money and buy a new one that fits your budget.
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Old 07-20-16, 11:26 AM
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Q: Is the choice between buying a new or used helmet some sort of Darwin test?


A: Yes. Yes it is.
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Old 07-21-16, 08:43 AM
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Geez, buy a freakin new helmet already. If you were looking at a POC, now a Kask, then it's likely you don't own a Walmart road bike, ergo, you can afford to buy a proper helmet from a legitimate retailer.
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Old 07-21-16, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by velociraptor View Post
Q: Is the choice between buying a new or used helmet some sort of Darwin test?


A: Yes. Yes it is.
Oddly, it is far more acceptable on this forum to cheap out on things like frames, wheels, seatposts, handlebars, etc. all of which could fail and cause quite a bit of harm to the user. Fake helmet...it's still a bunch of styrofoam. How much worse can it be than a real one?
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Old 07-21-16, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by joejack951 View Post
Oddly, it is far more acceptable on this forum to cheap out on things like frames, wheels, seatposts, handlebars, etc. all of which could fail and cause quite a bit of harm to the user. Fake helmet...it's still a bunch of styrofoam. How much worse can it be than a real one?
I think one of the primary differences is that you can go to Walmart and buy a $10 helmet that passes the same safety standards as a $300 helmet. Sure it's not as cool, might not be as light, etc. but is every bit as safe as a pricey helmet. The same can't really be said about other bike components, as least in terms of safety standards/certification. The incremental difference however of a $10 helmet vs. a $300 is very minor compared to a GMC Denali vs. an open mold Chinese carbon frame.

And this is coming from someone who owns a Kask Protone.
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Old 07-21-16, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by bmthom.gis View Post
The bigger question is why would anyone buy a used helmet where you don't know what it went through before you bought it, or if it is a fake? Pony up some money and buy a new one that fits your budget.
It is not hard to check a helmet for damage, it would be obvious. There is nothing inherently wrong with a used helemt
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Originally Posted by joejack951 View Post
Oddly, it is far more acceptable on this forum to cheap out on things like frames, wheels, seatposts, handlebars, etc. all of which could fail and cause quite a bit of harm to the user. Fake helmet...it's still a bunch of styrofoam. How much worse can it be than a real one?
I didn't say anything about cheap vs. expensive vs. fake or whatever – only new vs. used.

I find it difficult to understand why any reasonable person, with any sense of self-preservation, would entertain the purchase of a used helmet.
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Originally Posted by redlude97 View Post
It is not hard to check a helmet for damage, it would be obvious. There is nothing inherently wrong with a used helemt
Incorrect.

A helmet can be damaged in a non-obvious way.
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Originally Posted by velociraptor View Post
Incorrect.

A helmet can be damaged in a non-obvious way.
Post an example that can't be checked
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Originally Posted by redlude97 View Post
Post an example that can't be checked
You want to protect yourself with used safety gear? I'm not gonna argue.
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Originally Posted by velociraptor View Post
You want to protect yourself with used safety gear? I'm not gonna argue.
Unless you use a new helmet every time you go out, you are using used safety gear. Its simple, you routinely check your helmet for damage, if there is no obvious defects then you use it. Like I said, there is nothing inherently unsafe about used gear. Cycle shares in cities across the country have helmet loans, are these cities putting everyone at risk?
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Originally Posted by redlude97 View Post
Post an example that can't be checked
MIPS helmets. They're almost all improperly implemented and designed relative to the "standard" to start with especially on high-end hole-riddled helmet designs, and the MIPS people don't police it one iota...they're just happy to get their cash in trademark use and patent licensing. And the variations from the standard are so numerous that the only way to check for compliance is destructive analysis (AKA taking the helmet to a bandsaw).
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Originally Posted by redlude97 View Post
Unless you use a new helmet every time you go out, you are using used safety gear. Its simple, you routinely check your helmet for damage, if there is no obvious defects then you use it. Like I said, there is nothing inherently unsafe about used gear. Cycle shares in cities across the country have helmet loans, are these cities putting everyone at risk?
Oh, good grief.

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